Hi >snip<,
Saying that anybody is a criminal, a murderer or perjurer,
without proof of a conviction is defamatory. To say or imply that David Bain
is a murderer is obviously defamatory because he was acquitted on all
charges, to say that criminal(s) served on the Jury is obviously defamatory,
to say that witnesses (who were all named apart from one or two) perjured
themselves is also defamatory. None of these things can be classed as
'opinion' because they have no lawful status, to say an individual or a
group (as is the case with the jury and witnesses) are criminal(s) and
perjurers can't be sustained on fact. If you have any doubts about this
contact the Ministry of Justice or the Minister's office, in the meantime,
ban this poster and remove all his deluded rantings. If you have any doubt,
because of your lack of experience as to what defamation, inciting hatred
and harassment is, err on the side of caution. If you do not want to contact
the Minister's office or will not ban this poster, I will send all the
information along on your behalf and the issue can become one between Trade
Me as publisher and the Ministry of Justice.
There is currently a lot of opinion abroad that Trade Me are supportive or
unmoved by the ongoing use of it's boards by members of three particular
hate-sites, Justice(sic)For Robin Bain, Counterspin, Guilty.Freeforums. The
Trade Me member 'luckytrader' is a member of all 3 of those sites. As you
know Trade Me already face many charges of defamation. You might also know that as recently as last weekend there is comment from the Attorney General
in discussing Contempt of Court where he says of Contempt of Court it is
'more about preserving the fundamental confidence in the rule of law, and
smooth functioning of justice without interference from third parties or
outside factors.' Clearly, 'preserving the fundamental confidence in the
rule of law' is not to print or promote the unfounded utter tripe posted by
'luckytrader.' The hate-sites are deliberately attacking the Justice System,
The Judiciary, Witnesses, Counsel and a particular Jury their comments (
those of the hate-sites and those of luckytrader in particular which I have
brought to your attention) are clearly in Contempt of Court as defined by
the Attorney General.
I look forward to your reply.
Yours
etc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trade Me Support"
To: >snip<
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:59 PM
Subject: Your Trade Me Enquiry ID# 000-523-700
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Dear >snip<,
I have looked into this for you, and cannot ascertain exactly what is
defamatory in the statement that the member 'lucky_trader' has posted.
If you could provide more information as to how his posting is defamatory, I
am happy to look into this further for you, but at this stage I cannot see
how this post is defamatory - as opposed to expressing an opinion.
Regards,
>snip<
Trade Me Support
http://www.trademe.co.nz
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Counterspin is one step away from being a dangerous CULT.
ReplyDeleteNarcissism
is the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.
Intolerance
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lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.
Hatred
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Religion
The gospels that record the events of Jesus' life and death were written some time after the event so facts were dependent on memory and, in addition, given that the original authorship of these chapters is now disputed, there emerges the possibility that these gospels were rewritten in a manner that better suited the needs of the early missionaries. “it seems timely to embark on a reinterpretation of the whole Christian story in order to come up with something that is more relevant” Kent Parker.
Guns
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You just gotta love lucky_trader.
ReplyDelete"Actually, since you were not living in Dunedin and didn't even know Robin or any of the other Bains, it is highly unlikely you have any evidence against Robin" Lucky_trader post 32
Now that's clever! A prerequesite for having evidence is living in Dunedin, and knowing the Bain family!
"How about that ridiculous note david wrote, then. "Sorry, you're the only one who deserves to live". How could he expect anyone but the most brain dead Neanderthals to believe that" Lucky_trader post 45
Umm, the message was typed, and was "sorry, you are the only one that deserved to stay" - Now who is the 'neanderthal'
"What???? Perhaps you should watch CSI sometime. Any of the many clues pointing to david nain as the killer should have been enough to sink him." Lucky_trader post 128
So LT gets all his knowledge from CSI - Who is the Nain person?