Oh how the hate-siters rejoiced when they were 'vindicated' with the 'news' that potentially prejudicial evidence had been with held regarding David Bain's 111 emergency call. The evidence of a police 'expert' who miraculously, after more than a decade, heard the words 'I shot the prick' in the tape of the call.
The fact that he was the only idiot to hear it first didn't stop a gaggle of hate-siters wetting themselves in the excitement of 'vindication.' Not one of the morons could connect that a carefully planned murder-suicide would not result in the alleged killer, presenting his 'alibi' for the first time, interspersing it with a mid line 'confession.' To their minds (if they had one) they probably thought it happened all the time. Interesting the linquist experts who conducted tests on the tape found absolutely no evidence that the alleged words were said, backing up the reasons why the 'evidence' was never allowed. Some of the sample group who were told what the words were (auto-suggest,) when informed that no such words were spoken - didn't believe it. But don't worry they were all aussies, either that or ex-pat kiwis on the run from Parker's threats to enjoin them in the proceedings he faces.
Anybody that followed the case, and in particular the physics and forensic evidence of the final death scene would have realised that Robin Bain killed himself and every bit of evidence found in the lounge where he died confirmed that and excluded any other person being present. So even on that basis, the phone call was irrelevant but that didn't stop the hate-siters frothing at the mouth and going off on stalking expeditions because, like part of those in the sample group, they'd heard what they were told to listen for. It rang out loud and clear, because it was what they wanted to hear, it justified the hate they'd poured out on David Bain and Joe Karam for years, a hatred that crossed over to contempt of Court many times throughout the trial and since. Some, like Christine Williams, even offered that she would undertake hanging David if the opportunity was given her. So there you have it, the witches of Salem affect crossed into 'modern' nz and the 'twisted sisters effect' - to hang somebody for a murder (that of Robin Bain) that never happened, based among others things, of words that were never spoken.
Much like the evening the Jury returned the 5 not guilty verdicts, I just feel left cold that the winds of the 17th Century, the burning of 'witches,' 'marks' of the devil, sexual longings and other such travesties has its dark place in modern nz. And so the story of David Bain and Joe Karam changes yet again, another plank from a (very few) nzers of the defamatory hate that besieged them, rots and falls away. Shame on you sisters, shame on all of you.
In another way this 'finding' that police 'experts' will hopefully force the Courts to decide to unconditionally exclude such evidence in future trials where evidence of phone calls, taped conversations, overheard conversations and the like is sought to be introduced in cases where there is no other supporting evidence of what the amateur 'expert' hears, and is only also 'heard' by others once they are 'told' what they will hear. This use of 'experts' has evolved into another way of allowing the police to 'verbal' a suspect or defendant, that is after legislation required conversations to be video and audio recorded to avoid events of the past such as John Hughes 'verballing' another innocent man Arthur Thomas.
Showing posts with label The twisted sisters. Show all posts
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Sunday, November 6, 2011
Friday, October 28, 2011
kulkkubelle goes wild, chokes on hypocrisy.
sweetie9 wrote:
Crawl back under your rock.
Oh my God, the guy has been exonerated...I just hope if one of your family members is falsely accused and convicted of something that whiners on the other side of the world don't call them a " killer"
Quotekulkkulbelle (426 ) 4:19 pm, Thu 27 Oct #22
Deb Coates is morally outraged that someone should object to one of the 'Memphsis 3' being allowed into New Zealand. Fair enough on the surface. But isn't Kulkkulbelle, the previously banned ' Balisal' who renamed herself after a Kulkul bell as found in Balinese Temples. Why yes she is, and perhaps suffering from ringing in her ears that prevents her from recalling that she is a hate-site supporter that went a step further than any other hate-site supporter in New Zealand when she revealed having a copy of the autopsy report of one of the Bain victims which, according to kooky, proved that the victim had never been pregnant and their for gave lie to claims by the defence and its witnesses. Astoundingly enough, she was the only person who had such a report - even the pathologist himself didn't have it. But she is going to produce it, yes indeed, it's been coming on a slow boat from China for over 3 years now - trust her it is!
She, the wholesome soul, was also going to bankroll the defamation charges defences of Parker and Purkiss. The cheque is in the mail. Yes it is, kooky said it, so it must be - even ringing in one ears couldn't prevent that from being another truth from the veritable, holier than thou matriarch of TM, the self-appointed annoiter of all things good and fair.
But hold on, is claiming to have something which you never produce but use at length in your efforts to persecute somebody who has been 'exonerated' from a crime, found blameless - persecution? Why yes it is. And in order to appear 'enlightened' about another case of which a prominent nzer has taken an interest she defies anybody to object against the rights of somebody 'falsely accused and convicted.' But she did that herself, silly sausage - all that ringing in her ears must be upsetting her recall. Yes she did it herself and is unable to note that the Memphis 3 remain convicted in part for the authorities to avoid paying them out compensation. Compensation, yes that's right. Old Kooky is an expert on compensation as well, a signatory against compensation of somebody she knows is guilty despite them being found innocent by a jury in record time. Found innocent and therefore falsely imprisoned to that point, which is something else she knows is wrong because she of course has a pathologists report that will be arriving some time soon.
So what do you call somebody who lies in order to influence public opinion against an innocent man? I think you call them a persecutor. And why does somebody lie in order to have themselves believed, it is because they hate themselves, jealousy, an opportunity to play God over the life of a free man? You decide.
Which brings another question. Why does the spiritually cleansed bell person call out to those they imagine wicked in someway, for doing exactly what the cleansed person themselves have done and do in the few lucid moments when the bells subside and before their anger consumes them again. I believe they call out and point and mock, throw proverbial stones at that which they know is evil inside themselves.
Peter Jackson, like Joe Karam, Pat Booth, Jim Sprott and Chris Birt is motivated by defeating injustice he witnesses and which he is unable to turn away from. Though kookybell might applaud him she cannot hide that she is the instrument of injustice and the very example of what these good men find devastates them, deliberate, liberal, misuse of the truth and deceit.
One good thing that kooky unwittingly underlines is the mediocrity of desire for the truth of those such as kooky and her twisted sister buddies. Peter is not maligned in any meaningful way for a case of injustice he champions and which generally there is not a lot understood about by the average nzer, whereas another case many didn't understand, apart from sensationalised headlines and mistruths by kooky and her cohorts, both the falsely imprisoned and his champion for the truth have on dark days been maligned and persecuted to a far greater depth that the trivial comments queen kooky finds offensive.
Crawl back under your rock.
Oh my God, the guy has been exonerated...I just hope if one of your family members is falsely accused and convicted of something that whiners on the other side of the world don't call them a " killer"
Quotekulkkulbelle (426 ) 4:19 pm, Thu 27 Oct #22
Deb Coates is morally outraged that someone should object to one of the 'Memphsis 3' being allowed into New Zealand. Fair enough on the surface. But isn't Kulkkulbelle, the previously banned ' Balisal' who renamed herself after a Kulkul bell as found in Balinese Temples. Why yes she is, and perhaps suffering from ringing in her ears that prevents her from recalling that she is a hate-site supporter that went a step further than any other hate-site supporter in New Zealand when she revealed having a copy of the autopsy report of one of the Bain victims which, according to kooky, proved that the victim had never been pregnant and their for gave lie to claims by the defence and its witnesses. Astoundingly enough, she was the only person who had such a report - even the pathologist himself didn't have it. But she is going to produce it, yes indeed, it's been coming on a slow boat from China for over 3 years now - trust her it is!
She, the wholesome soul, was also going to bankroll the defamation charges defences of Parker and Purkiss. The cheque is in the mail. Yes it is, kooky said it, so it must be - even ringing in one ears couldn't prevent that from being another truth from the veritable, holier than thou matriarch of TM, the self-appointed annoiter of all things good and fair.
But hold on, is claiming to have something which you never produce but use at length in your efforts to persecute somebody who has been 'exonerated' from a crime, found blameless - persecution? Why yes it is. And in order to appear 'enlightened' about another case of which a prominent nzer has taken an interest she defies anybody to object against the rights of somebody 'falsely accused and convicted.' But she did that herself, silly sausage - all that ringing in her ears must be upsetting her recall. Yes she did it herself and is unable to note that the Memphis 3 remain convicted in part for the authorities to avoid paying them out compensation. Compensation, yes that's right. Old Kooky is an expert on compensation as well, a signatory against compensation of somebody she knows is guilty despite them being found innocent by a jury in record time. Found innocent and therefore falsely imprisoned to that point, which is something else she knows is wrong because she of course has a pathologists report that will be arriving some time soon.
So what do you call somebody who lies in order to influence public opinion against an innocent man? I think you call them a persecutor. And why does somebody lie in order to have themselves believed, it is because they hate themselves, jealousy, an opportunity to play God over the life of a free man? You decide.
Which brings another question. Why does the spiritually cleansed bell person call out to those they imagine wicked in someway, for doing exactly what the cleansed person themselves have done and do in the few lucid moments when the bells subside and before their anger consumes them again. I believe they call out and point and mock, throw proverbial stones at that which they know is evil inside themselves.
Peter Jackson, like Joe Karam, Pat Booth, Jim Sprott and Chris Birt is motivated by defeating injustice he witnesses and which he is unable to turn away from. Though kookybell might applaud him she cannot hide that she is the instrument of injustice and the very example of what these good men find devastates them, deliberate, liberal, misuse of the truth and deceit.
One good thing that kooky unwittingly underlines is the mediocrity of desire for the truth of those such as kooky and her twisted sister buddies. Peter is not maligned in any meaningful way for a case of injustice he champions and which generally there is not a lot understood about by the average nzer, whereas another case many didn't understand, apart from sensationalised headlines and mistruths by kooky and her cohorts, both the falsely imprisoned and his champion for the truth have on dark days been maligned and persecuted to a far greater depth that the trivial comments queen kooky finds offensive.
Sunday, May 15, 2011
Dear twisted sisters, what would happen if you were a director of a company
that ran a message board on which people posted deliberate lies? Would you not be responsible, even after being told what was on your boards. In Aussie they said yes you would be responsible...
ACCC v Allergy Pathway Pty Ltd and Anor (No 2) [2011] FCA 74
22nd March 2011
A recent case in the Federal Court which held a company responsible for claims made in testimonials that its clients posted on its Facebook wall.
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In 2009 the ACCC had brought an action alleging that Allergy Pathway had engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct, falsely represented goods or services were of a particular standard or quality and represented that its services had benefits which they do not have by making certain statements about its allergy services in marketing brochures and a variety of other publications. The respondents didn’t contest these allegations and, to avoid permanent injunctions, offered up undertakings to the Court committing to refrain from “making or publishing or causing to be made or published in any internet website, radio, television or newspaper advertisements or brochures or other written promotional material” statements representing that:
it could accurately test for and identify an allergen for a person;
it could cure or eliminate or successfully treat any allergy or allergic reaction;
its treatments were safe or low risk; or
after its treatments it would be safe for a person to have contact with the allergen to which the person had an allergic reaction.
The undertakings were given by the company and by the sole director of the company, who was taken to have been “involved” in the contraventions.
Allegations
The ACCC in these proceedings alleged that the respondents were in contempt because they had breached the undertakings by making several categories of objectionable publications, including in:
testimonials written by clients and posted by Allergy Pathway on its website, on its Facebook wall and on its Twitter page; and
testimonials written and posted by clients on Allergy Pathway’s Facebook wall.
The question
The respondents conceded that statements and links to statements which the company itself posted breached the undertakings. The Court had to determine whether Allergy Pathway and its director were similarly in contempt for allowing misleading statements posted by independent individuals on the company’s Facebook wall or Twitter page to remain there after the company became aware of the comments.
The respondents had said that the breaches were not deliberate, and that they thought they would not breach the undertakings by publishing the views of Allergy Pathways’ clients provided that they removed extravagant claims or words. However, they accepted that their approach to moderating their Facebook fans’ and Twitter followers’ testimonials was insufficient.
The finding
Finkelstein J held that the company and its director were in contempt because of these Facebook and Twitter statements. Key factors in the determination were that Allergy Pathways knew the statements had been posted on its Facebook wall / Twitter page and took no steps to remove them and if Allergy Pathways had made the statements itself it would have been in breach of the undertakings.
Finkelstein J said:
“While it cannot be said that Allergy Pathway was responsible for the initial publication of the testimonials (the original publisher was the third party who posted the testimonials on Allergy Pathway’s Twitter and Facebook pages) it is appropriate to conclude that Allergy Pathway accepted responsibility for the publications when it knew of the publications and decided not to remove them. Hence it became the publisher of the testimonials. In any event it is clear that it caused them to continue to be published from the time it became aware of their existence, which is enough to put Allergy Pathway in breach of the second limb of its undertaking [i.e. causing to be made or published].”
Each respondent was fined $7,500. Injunctions for 3 years were made and the court made declarations of breach, corrective advertising and costs.
This looks bad news for the very twisted sisters. Who would have thought that if you controlled a message board and you let people like Fox, Kennard, Stockdale, Taylor and others to lie their rotten heads off to harass and stalk people - the Courts would hold you responsible along with the direct harassers? Certainly not Trade Me, well maybe not until now.
ACCC v Allergy Pathway Pty Ltd and Anor (No 2) [2011] FCA 74
22nd March 2011
A recent case in the Federal Court which held a company responsible for claims made in testimonials that its clients posted on its Facebook wall.
print friendlyemail a friendrelated publicationsrelated servicesBackground
In 2009 the ACCC had brought an action alleging that Allergy Pathway had engaged in misleading and deceptive conduct, falsely represented goods or services were of a particular standard or quality and represented that its services had benefits which they do not have by making certain statements about its allergy services in marketing brochures and a variety of other publications. The respondents didn’t contest these allegations and, to avoid permanent injunctions, offered up undertakings to the Court committing to refrain from “making or publishing or causing to be made or published in any internet website, radio, television or newspaper advertisements or brochures or other written promotional material” statements representing that:
it could accurately test for and identify an allergen for a person;
it could cure or eliminate or successfully treat any allergy or allergic reaction;
its treatments were safe or low risk; or
after its treatments it would be safe for a person to have contact with the allergen to which the person had an allergic reaction.
The undertakings were given by the company and by the sole director of the company, who was taken to have been “involved” in the contraventions.
Allegations
The ACCC in these proceedings alleged that the respondents were in contempt because they had breached the undertakings by making several categories of objectionable publications, including in:
testimonials written by clients and posted by Allergy Pathway on its website, on its Facebook wall and on its Twitter page; and
testimonials written and posted by clients on Allergy Pathway’s Facebook wall.
The question
The respondents conceded that statements and links to statements which the company itself posted breached the undertakings. The Court had to determine whether Allergy Pathway and its director were similarly in contempt for allowing misleading statements posted by independent individuals on the company’s Facebook wall or Twitter page to remain there after the company became aware of the comments.
The respondents had said that the breaches were not deliberate, and that they thought they would not breach the undertakings by publishing the views of Allergy Pathways’ clients provided that they removed extravagant claims or words. However, they accepted that their approach to moderating their Facebook fans’ and Twitter followers’ testimonials was insufficient.
The finding
Finkelstein J held that the company and its director were in contempt because of these Facebook and Twitter statements. Key factors in the determination were that Allergy Pathways knew the statements had been posted on its Facebook wall / Twitter page and took no steps to remove them and if Allergy Pathways had made the statements itself it would have been in breach of the undertakings.
Finkelstein J said:
“While it cannot be said that Allergy Pathway was responsible for the initial publication of the testimonials (the original publisher was the third party who posted the testimonials on Allergy Pathway’s Twitter and Facebook pages) it is appropriate to conclude that Allergy Pathway accepted responsibility for the publications when it knew of the publications and decided not to remove them. Hence it became the publisher of the testimonials. In any event it is clear that it caused them to continue to be published from the time it became aware of their existence, which is enough to put Allergy Pathway in breach of the second limb of its undertaking [i.e. causing to be made or published].”
Each respondent was fined $7,500. Injunctions for 3 years were made and the court made declarations of breach, corrective advertising and costs.
This looks bad news for the very twisted sisters. Who would have thought that if you controlled a message board and you let people like Fox, Kennard, Stockdale, Taylor and others to lie their rotten heads off to harass and stalk people - the Courts would hold you responsible along with the direct harassers? Certainly not Trade Me, well maybe not until now.
Saturday, February 19, 2011
Oh look nina_s having a tizzy after being caught out....
Nina_s who arrived on the message board scene as a person curious about the Bain case just before the trial started has been sprung - but it's not her no, no, no.
She was one of the original twisted, dogknotted sisters, along with fellow stalkers OBrien and Curran. After a less than obvious start she quickly became the biggest defamer of Joe Karam on TM. She was full of righteous indignation, she was so important she hovered above the ground when she spoke and save for an arse the size of The Queen Mary that anchored her to Terra firma would have floated. She was able to pass on confidential information, she began an expert wailer to the moderators, in fact I still suspect she had some connection with TM.
She went onto invent many identities while at the same time trying to out others who she thought did the same. One new identity was quite memorable 'slimdusty2' who started off trying to be blokish, calling people mate and within hours had reverted to the toffee nose moron nina feels herself to be. Nina, in her single great moment, acknowledged that David Bain's 111 call was genuine before working out the 'mistake' she had made. But she wasn't done she began to start disappearing and appearing again from the boards along with her posts, finally she revealed that she had a stalker and it was me! And until then I hadn't known about it, I was so surprised I ate a chocolate. But was she a member of a hate-site no, no, no.
It was great watching her have melt downs and tell the board how she had tearfully complained to TM, usually about me for saying something about the size of her butt, or her buck teeth. And then last year in the strong winds the outhouse blew away and there was nina ginormous butt sitting on the Throne reading her posts on not one, but two hate-sites. 'Miss Wish Were Pretty Pretty' was a proven a liar again, a member of hate-sites that stalked TM members and their families, stalked Jurors in the Bain trial and witnesses. But it was her, no, no, no it was another nina_s, called 'Ninaconcertina how does you garden grow." You nina_s are a stalker and you gave yourself up you potty-mouthed crap artist.
She was one of the original twisted, dogknotted sisters, along with fellow stalkers OBrien and Curran. After a less than obvious start she quickly became the biggest defamer of Joe Karam on TM. She was full of righteous indignation, she was so important she hovered above the ground when she spoke and save for an arse the size of The Queen Mary that anchored her to Terra firma would have floated. She was able to pass on confidential information, she began an expert wailer to the moderators, in fact I still suspect she had some connection with TM.
She went onto invent many identities while at the same time trying to out others who she thought did the same. One new identity was quite memorable 'slimdusty2' who started off trying to be blokish, calling people mate and within hours had reverted to the toffee nose moron nina feels herself to be. Nina, in her single great moment, acknowledged that David Bain's 111 call was genuine before working out the 'mistake' she had made. But she wasn't done she began to start disappearing and appearing again from the boards along with her posts, finally she revealed that she had a stalker and it was me! And until then I hadn't known about it, I was so surprised I ate a chocolate. But was she a member of a hate-site no, no, no.
It was great watching her have melt downs and tell the board how she had tearfully complained to TM, usually about me for saying something about the size of her butt, or her buck teeth. And then last year in the strong winds the outhouse blew away and there was nina ginormous butt sitting on the Throne reading her posts on not one, but two hate-sites. 'Miss Wish Were Pretty Pretty' was a proven a liar again, a member of hate-sites that stalked TM members and their families, stalked Jurors in the Bain trial and witnesses. But it was her, no, no, no it was another nina_s, called 'Ninaconcertina how does you garden grow." You nina_s are a stalker and you gave yourself up you potty-mouthed crap artist.
Wednesday, February 9, 2011
All peachy peachy on the hate-sites?
Membership falling, 'right thinking nzers' leaving in droves. Additional members due for Court scrutiny, links being proven to SST and ChCh Press, to stalking and laying false complaints. Sites shut down and silenced, paranoia reigning supreme, no media interest except in the gory details of the collapse of the 'enlightened' ones. Remaining members disproving of Kent Parker and Annette Curran, blaming them for the troubles. Infighting rife, bs still to the fore stroking Parker and Stockdale's ego, Taylor trapped? Melanie White still lonely, kalnovitch still spitting tacks and Christine Williams plaiting a noose from her own grey locks. In all a deep silence, no boasts, no pledges, no petition, no stamina and no where to hide. All peachy peachy then, just a few more stalkers and crooks to round up. Keep the information coming folks, all evidence is good.
Friday, January 7, 2011
I see Joanne Black, Trevor Fox, Stockdale and Lindsay Gurnard
speculating about the compo claim again, when only a week ago it was said to have been wiped and they were in celebration. It must be hard being a moron, and one would need to have an rhinocerous hide to make an utter fool of themselves one day and go on the next pretending they hadn't. But they have a good teacher in that, the idiot Stockdale. First there were no bloodspots on Robin's shoe, it was a myth and now he's an expert on them. He was never going to post on TM again, making the pledge and breaking it a number of times.
There are clues enough in the press to indicate what is going on, Joe Karam was reported as saying that they (the defence) were still in dialogue with the Minister.
All bets are off that there will ever be an orthodox application for compensatory damages, but that won't deter the sisters from prophesying what they don't know about and may never be informed on. Idiots.
There are clues enough in the press to indicate what is going on, Joe Karam was reported as saying that they (the defence) were still in dialogue with the Minister.
All bets are off that there will ever be an orthodox application for compensatory damages, but that won't deter the sisters from prophesying what they don't know about and may never be informed on. Idiots.
Sunday, January 2, 2011
Don't be so dickleberry Rach...
but he has a job, which should pay well, and no student loan and what about his share of book royalties? I just read the article in the Herald about the support fund perhaps the call should go out to David's supporters again to top up the coffers, better that than all of the public from the 'purse', I am sure Nana and Te Aroha wouldn't mind contributing, I on the other hand would.
Edited by goldnkiwi at 8:00 pm, Sun 2 Jan
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goldnkiwi (610 ) 7:54 pm, Sun 2 Jan #31357
Use that money you've got saved to give the donkeys a viagra injection dickleberry.
Enjoy, your self. Think of mother Mexico and all that.
eehaw
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goldnkiwi (610 ) 7:54 pm, Sun 2 Jan #31357
Use that money you've got saved to give the donkeys a viagra injection dickleberry.
Enjoy, your self. Think of mother Mexico and all that.
eehaw
Wednesday, December 29, 2010
An ex junkie beside himself with jealousy, how sad.
flowbee wrote:
Great to see that David has spent time with his extended family.
And who exactly was this member of the 'extended family' and what is the connection.
Propaganda in its purest form ... but who would have expected anything but from that outfit !
Quotetherafter1 (14 ) 8:42 am, Wed 29 Dec #381
Get a life you freak.
Great to see that David has spent time with his extended family.
And who exactly was this member of the 'extended family' and what is the connection.
Propaganda in its purest form ... but who would have expected anything but from that outfit !
Quotetherafter1 (14 ) 8:42 am, Wed 29 Dec #381
Get a life you freak.
The calm logic and argument of a hate-siter knitting at the gallows, a flea bitten dog by it's feet...
If I was a low life scum bag that murdered my own family, Id be low enough to lie to get of. Its not about me, I could never even comprehend an act that vile. The proof is indisputable. That part has been debated ENDLESSLY so no need to do so further. He wont be able to prove his innocence in front of intelligent people so it will cost NZ millions more. I cant see the reason why we cant sue back. Whats the harm? If he can prove his innocence, then giVe him the money. But if he is a GUILTY low life scum sucking leach? HANG EM!
Quoteskylab6 (143 ) 11:01 pm, Tue 28 Dec #347
We are to take it from this frothing idiot that the 'proof is indisputable.' Another great advertisement for Kent Parker and the 'girls.' His explanation of how the father's blood and brains got inside the rifle, and the blood and brains of his children on his right shoe is so indisputable he doesn't even explain it - if the idiot even knows about it.
Quoteskylab6 (143 ) 11:01 pm, Tue 28 Dec #347
We are to take it from this frothing idiot that the 'proof is indisputable.' Another great advertisement for Kent Parker and the 'girls.' His explanation of how the father's blood and brains got inside the rifle, and the blood and brains of his children on his right shoe is so indisputable he doesn't even explain it - if the idiot even knows about it.
Tuesday, December 28, 2010
Wow, the wobbly ones are on fire......
A hate-site stalker, Rachael Membery, telling others to mind their own business!
thank goodness i wondered if it was a hoax lol, u seem overly concerned with what others do, is that face book page any of your business, i doubt if you are an intended recipient, mind your own business.
Quotegoldnkiwi (610 ) 2:09 pm, Tue 28 Dec #31319
thank goodness i wondered if it was a hoax lol, u seem overly concerned with what others do, is that face book page any of your business, i doubt if you are an intended recipient, mind your own business.
Quotegoldnkiwi (610 ) 2:09 pm, Tue 28 Dec #31319
Interesting comprehension levels of the hate-siters....
very interesting, compensation has been denied.......
kalnovitch ( 0 )
10:58 am, Tue 28 Dec | #6 | Rating: -1
Thick and thicker.
kalnovitch ( 0 )
10:58 am, Tue 28 Dec | #6 | Rating: -1
Thick and thicker.
The sisters feeling isolated?
A few threads have disappeared, but only since a couple of newbies have appeared. I think the mod's need to look into this
kalnovitch ( 0 )
12:01 am, Tue 28 Dec | #1
Cowpat Kal struggling to work out that the message board sella don't want to be sued for entertaining the vitriol of the sisters and being placed in the same position as Trade Me are by having allowed a bunch of stalking idiots use of their boards.
Now what was that favourite abbreviation of Kalnovitch's that attended just about every post? Oh that's right, LOL.
kalnovitch ( 0 )
12:01 am, Tue 28 Dec | #1
Cowpat Kal struggling to work out that the message board sella don't want to be sued for entertaining the vitriol of the sisters and being placed in the same position as Trade Me are by having allowed a bunch of stalking idiots use of their boards.
Now what was that favourite abbreviation of Kalnovitch's that attended just about every post? Oh that's right, LOL.
Monday, December 27, 2010
A question from the disenchanted..
Remind you of anyone?
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Quotejmhb51 (1 ) 9:26 pm, Mon 27 Dec #14997
Well yes, Joanne Black.
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Quotejmhb51 (1 ) 9:26 pm, Mon 27 Dec #14997
Well yes, Joanne Black.
An addendum to 'folie a plusieurs' below, from the sisters legal advisor kennard.
First Kennard explaining how I tracked down somebody overseas that I don't even know
oh Nos tells the world he spoke to my ex to get the information I admire the honesty in that
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Lindsayr ( 5 )
2:54 pm, Mon 27 Dec | #87 | Rating: -2
Then the summation of his reply that he posted the information about himself publically.
Firstly, Nos saw the post when you made it on TM and did not need to go searching through thousands of pages on VMN. Just as I saw the post when you made it, and thought was a stupid thing to do. It stood out so loud and clear. You posted it, at least own your own actions.
You stated "Putting out stuff about oneself that is unpleasant is known as honesty, something totally foreign to you is the concept of honesty". So you are honest are you? and yet in an earlier post you said that Nos had researched and stalked you to get the information, that now you admit to posting yourself.
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Allebesor ( 115 )
3:51 pm, Mon 27 Dec | #91 | Rating: 2
And of course a hate-site signature slips from his lips....the standard narrative of hate and stalking....a threat.
But be careful I just might be a vindictive psychopath with a death wish. Go crawl back into your hole and pull the slush in after you.
oh Nos tells the world he spoke to my ex to get the information I admire the honesty in that
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Lindsayr ( 5 )
2:54 pm, Mon 27 Dec | #87 | Rating: -2
So we have it all, a full display, all the things that kennard, Stockdale, Williams, Cameron, OBrien and Newton blame others of but in which in fact they simply make up. We see first the lie about Kennard's self-information, then the adornment that the information was gathered from a person tracked down overseas, then finally when the proof is revealed Kennard outed himself for being accused of a crime against his children, he finishes with a threat. Not an imagined one, a real and public threat. Why would an organisation try to legitimise itself with people like these above as administrators, or try to legitimise itself by the use of lies and never depart from a lie about the evidence even when found out? Well, folks it ain't normal, it's sick - a fiddly kind of psychopathic, narcissistic, sick, where people and their families are devalued and debased without feeling or consideration. A bunch of sick perverts and psychopaths that peddle their lies and hate and expect to be taken seriously while they search into other people's lives and that of their families. Thanks for the further help Kennard, I hope you recall the message I gave you and your buddies a couple of days ago, your false complaints are coming back to bite you in a legitimate and lawful way.
oh Nos tells the world he spoke to my ex to get the information I admire the honesty in that
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Lindsayr ( 5 )
2:54 pm, Mon 27 Dec | #87 | Rating: -2
Then the summation of his reply that he posted the information about himself publically.
Firstly, Nos saw the post when you made it on TM and did not need to go searching through thousands of pages on VMN. Just as I saw the post when you made it, and thought was a stupid thing to do. It stood out so loud and clear. You posted it, at least own your own actions.
You stated "Putting out stuff about oneself that is unpleasant is known as honesty, something totally foreign to you is the concept of honesty". So you are honest are you? and yet in an earlier post you said that Nos had researched and stalked you to get the information, that now you admit to posting yourself.
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Allebesor ( 115 )
3:51 pm, Mon 27 Dec | #91 | Rating: 2
And of course a hate-site signature slips from his lips....the standard narrative of hate and stalking....a threat.
But be careful I just might be a vindictive psychopath with a death wish. Go crawl back into your hole and pull the slush in after you.
oh Nos tells the world he spoke to my ex to get the information I admire the honesty in that
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Lindsayr ( 5 )
2:54 pm, Mon 27 Dec | #87 | Rating: -2
So we have it all, a full display, all the things that kennard, Stockdale, Williams, Cameron, OBrien and Newton blame others of but in which in fact they simply make up. We see first the lie about Kennard's self-information, then the adornment that the information was gathered from a person tracked down overseas, then finally when the proof is revealed Kennard outed himself for being accused of a crime against his children, he finishes with a threat. Not an imagined one, a real and public threat. Why would an organisation try to legitimise itself with people like these above as administrators, or try to legitimise itself by the use of lies and never depart from a lie about the evidence even when found out? Well, folks it ain't normal, it's sick - a fiddly kind of psychopathic, narcissistic, sick, where people and their families are devalued and debased without feeling or consideration. A bunch of sick perverts and psychopaths that peddle their lies and hate and expect to be taken seriously while they search into other people's lives and that of their families. Thanks for the further help Kennard, I hope you recall the message I gave you and your buddies a couple of days ago, your false complaints are coming back to bite you in a legitimate and lawful way.
folie a plusieurs: the sisters dearest friend
"Have it your way, then. A delusional belief is not the same as a momentary hallucination. People who claim to have seen the Virgin Mary or a UFO, have typically reverted to their normal lives afterwards. The incidents left a very small psychological footprint on the witnesses. Not so with a shared psychotic disorder. Those affected structure their entire existence around their inane convictions."
"Can you give us some examples?"
"Sure I can. There are hundreds if not thousands of cases meticulously documented ever since the 19th century. Some patients became convinced that their homes were being infiltrated by aliens or foreign powers. An unfortunate couple was so afraid of hostile electromagnetic radiation that they converted their apartment into a Faraday Cage: they sealed it hermetically at an enormous expense and took out all the windows and interconnecting doors. They claimed that the radiation was intended to dehydrate them by inducing diarrhea and to starve them through chronic indigestion."
The young agent whistled and the older one emitted one of his soft laughs.
"In another instance, an entire family took on enormous credits, sold their house, and quit their jobs because they delusionally talked themselves into believing that one of the sons was about to sign a multi-million dollar contract with a Hollywood studio. They even hired engineers and architects to lay out plans for a new mansion, replete with a swimming pool."
The young one could no longer hide his mirth.
"Of course, there's the run-of-the mill paranoid, persecutory delusions about how the FBI, or CIA, or NSA, take your pick, are tapping the family phone, or shadowing its members as they go innocently about their business."
"Why would anyone believe such crap?" - Asked the senior one.
"Because the source of the delusional belief, the person who invents it and then imposes it on others, is perceived to be authoritative and superior in intelligence, or in social standing, or to have access to privileged information."
They exchanged glances and then:
"So, it's like a cult? A guru and his followers?"
"Exactly. The primary case - the originally delusional person - does his or her best to keep the others in relative seclusion and social isolation. That way, he monopolizes the flow of information and opinions. He filters all the incoming data and blocks anything which might interfere, upset, or contradict the delusional content. The primary case become sort of a gatekeeper."
Could it be shattered delusions about the evidence, and the particular failure of the gatekeepers to with hold their 'members' from the truth that makes the sisters so angry this xmas leading from a time when they saw Nos at every turn? Is it because they are now seen as mere mortals, even criminals, delusional ones at that and not the informed, enlightened, arbiters of the truth they sought to be? There were many that invented false truths about the Bain case, about David, Joe, then ultimately about anybody they could access whom they thought were non-believers and therefore a 'danger' to them.
"Can you give us some examples?"
"Sure I can. There are hundreds if not thousands of cases meticulously documented ever since the 19th century. Some patients became convinced that their homes were being infiltrated by aliens or foreign powers. An unfortunate couple was so afraid of hostile electromagnetic radiation that they converted their apartment into a Faraday Cage: they sealed it hermetically at an enormous expense and took out all the windows and interconnecting doors. They claimed that the radiation was intended to dehydrate them by inducing diarrhea and to starve them through chronic indigestion."
The young agent whistled and the older one emitted one of his soft laughs.
"In another instance, an entire family took on enormous credits, sold their house, and quit their jobs because they delusionally talked themselves into believing that one of the sons was about to sign a multi-million dollar contract with a Hollywood studio. They even hired engineers and architects to lay out plans for a new mansion, replete with a swimming pool."
The young one could no longer hide his mirth.
"Of course, there's the run-of-the mill paranoid, persecutory delusions about how the FBI, or CIA, or NSA, take your pick, are tapping the family phone, or shadowing its members as they go innocently about their business."
"Why would anyone believe such crap?" - Asked the senior one.
"Because the source of the delusional belief, the person who invents it and then imposes it on others, is perceived to be authoritative and superior in intelligence, or in social standing, or to have access to privileged information."
They exchanged glances and then:
"So, it's like a cult? A guru and his followers?"
"Exactly. The primary case - the originally delusional person - does his or her best to keep the others in relative seclusion and social isolation. That way, he monopolizes the flow of information and opinions. He filters all the incoming data and blocks anything which might interfere, upset, or contradict the delusional content. The primary case become sort of a gatekeeper."
Could it be shattered delusions about the evidence, and the particular failure of the gatekeepers to with hold their 'members' from the truth that makes the sisters so angry this xmas leading from a time when they saw Nos at every turn? Is it because they are now seen as mere mortals, even criminals, delusional ones at that and not the informed, enlightened, arbiters of the truth they sought to be? There were many that invented false truths about the Bain case, about David, Joe, then ultimately about anybody they could access whom they thought were non-believers and therefore a 'danger' to them.
Arthur Millers: Crucible, relived by the twisted sisters.
I need to make a distinction between what will be the body of this post and an associated feature. The associated feature is that the following people have all been involved in clandestine stalking of myself and family, also others and their families, proof is held of that and it is certainly under the attention of the authorities. The people involved in perpetrating these events are under watch, not only just by the authorities and not only for their stalking.
But it is the secondary nature of this behaviour that I will discuss here. It can called the 'Crucible' effect where rumour begins tales of the mark or behaviour of witches arising from innocent everyday events and become in the minds of the so afflicted to hysteria. Something similar to events in Haiti today where men are burnt because they're seen as voodoo men who began the cholera. So too here in the land of the long white cloud, a blend of air, sea, land with the ever presence of the ancestors the witches way vainly tries to take hold.
When Glenda OBrien revealed on the internet that I had sent a threatening letter to her daughter she knew that it wasn't true but deliberately milked it for all she could. No doubt in someway to justify her stalking other people and their families, even in her own sick mind she knew she needed to justify to herself her 'right' to stalk children so she chose her very only lie to give herself the 'right.' When the letter was published (and it has been on this blog earlier) she fell silent as I assume a witch might do when caught in the light, she was silent for sometime before she found another lie - there was a second 'imaginary' letter according to her which of course she was never able to produce. Glenda OBrien said she was going to go to the police with that first 'threatening' letter despite it simply being advice to her that her hatred was in danger of consuming her.
To another Maryanne Newton, attacking David Bain at length, foully and maliciously with the full spectrum of the Counterspin lies while at the same time running an add for her lost cat. A sympathy plea for help to find the moggy. A sharp contrast, on the one hand a 'right' to persecute David with lies while on the other a plea for a lost cat as though lives can be balanced that way - affection for a cat and vitriol and hate for a stranger who you have never met. So I emailed her TM ad asked her why she had her cat locked up (the ad read that she had from memory) and concluded that her cat must have run away from her because it didn't like her. Maryanne Newton complained to everyone in the world for this outrageous thing I'd said about her cat and when not getting the 'appropriate' response changed (a la OBrien) to say I'd sent her daughter a threatening email.
Soon it was Lindsay Kennard saying that I'd sent him an email regarding his drinking and state of mind. All the normal advice was showered on him by the sisters, 'go to the police' that sort of thing. I think he even claimed to be doing (bizarre meaning) some 'lawyering' over the matter. I never contacted linz4me and like the others with their 'hidden' emails (and why would they hide them if they had them) he never produced anything that he could say came from me. I say what I want to say to Kennard in public, here on this board set up for the purpose of outing these witches and their lies.
Either just before or just after the linz event, Christine Williams claimed to have got a phone call and to have called out my name down the line in 'fear.' She also got the customary condolences and advice on what to do by her dear, equally enraged, sisters, but of course I had never phoned the idiot. She was playing the 'Crucible' routine to a live audience who also took part in the same play.
Then Mike Stockdale, only suspecting that I was a person that rang him, I say 'suspecting' because I've read his board communication about it and have it saved, yet in short order all suspicion was removed and it was definitely me and I was going to meet him somewhere. Problem was I didn't know about it and the only place I want to see Stockdale is in Court explaining why he was stalking a friend of mine earlier this year.
Last in this bizarre list and probably the most bizarre event of all. One night when there was a hangbainer meltdown going on TM, a friend of mine got two calls from who? 'Me' of course, doing what? Threatening the friend and their family, by coincidence the hangbainer who melted down the same night disappeared from the boards but remains part of the inquiry.
So they feed off hysteria, not one of them has the clear judgement or presence of mind to take a breath. Instead they swallow their own lies hook, line and sinker. Even those telling the lies believe them and steam off to the Police or elsewhere, to repeat their lies without for a second considering that their complaints are harmful, false, and deliberately illegal. Their coup de grace, ace card, or winning shot always relies upon who they think I am and the hysteria package that excites them into delirium in the hot night but which disappears in the cold morning light.
Now to link the two behaviours. In the first (the stalking) they've left a trail and it's all recorded. In the second they've also left a trail, false complaints and lies. So how deranged are these people that transfer their hatred and persecution of David to anybody that does not agree with them, the answer very deranged, very bitter and very stupid.
The pen is my weapon of choice, and logic my companion, respect for the truth dominates my desire to reach any conclusion and I am unafraid about being wrong (or admitting it) or having made a mistake because it is something that adds to experience. I never try to make purchase from lies and never lie to benefit myself over another, I won't say my whole life has been like that because it hasn't. I have culminated a wide range of experiences, many of them tough, that have brought me home to a point of having compassion and the strength and love of my ancestors, that is why I will not be silent in the face of persecution, in the face of lying and stalking. I will resist, using the pen and loving the truth. I will use the language and insults of the gutter when required to vibrate the brains of the afflicted so that they lose their direction, I will unsettle them with words and logic but I will never prevent them going away and going about their own lives and business and leaving others alone.
On a final note a message to Kalnovitch, Williams, Cameron and others; a psychopath is a liar who never morally considers or feels responsible in anyway for the lies they tell about others. The lies like responsibility run off them like water. A psychopath is someone who lies about photos, who denies stalking children, who claims false harm in the loudest voice while maintaining harm upon others. A psychopath is one twisted sister.
But it is the secondary nature of this behaviour that I will discuss here. It can called the 'Crucible' effect where rumour begins tales of the mark or behaviour of witches arising from innocent everyday events and become in the minds of the so afflicted to hysteria. Something similar to events in Haiti today where men are burnt because they're seen as voodoo men who began the cholera. So too here in the land of the long white cloud, a blend of air, sea, land with the ever presence of the ancestors the witches way vainly tries to take hold.
When Glenda OBrien revealed on the internet that I had sent a threatening letter to her daughter she knew that it wasn't true but deliberately milked it for all she could. No doubt in someway to justify her stalking other people and their families, even in her own sick mind she knew she needed to justify to herself her 'right' to stalk children so she chose her very only lie to give herself the 'right.' When the letter was published (and it has been on this blog earlier) she fell silent as I assume a witch might do when caught in the light, she was silent for sometime before she found another lie - there was a second 'imaginary' letter according to her which of course she was never able to produce. Glenda OBrien said she was going to go to the police with that first 'threatening' letter despite it simply being advice to her that her hatred was in danger of consuming her.
To another Maryanne Newton, attacking David Bain at length, foully and maliciously with the full spectrum of the Counterspin lies while at the same time running an add for her lost cat. A sympathy plea for help to find the moggy. A sharp contrast, on the one hand a 'right' to persecute David with lies while on the other a plea for a lost cat as though lives can be balanced that way - affection for a cat and vitriol and hate for a stranger who you have never met. So I emailed her TM ad asked her why she had her cat locked up (the ad read that she had from memory) and concluded that her cat must have run away from her because it didn't like her. Maryanne Newton complained to everyone in the world for this outrageous thing I'd said about her cat and when not getting the 'appropriate' response changed (a la OBrien) to say I'd sent her daughter a threatening email.
Soon it was Lindsay Kennard saying that I'd sent him an email regarding his drinking and state of mind. All the normal advice was showered on him by the sisters, 'go to the police' that sort of thing. I think he even claimed to be doing (bizarre meaning) some 'lawyering' over the matter. I never contacted linz4me and like the others with their 'hidden' emails (and why would they hide them if they had them) he never produced anything that he could say came from me. I say what I want to say to Kennard in public, here on this board set up for the purpose of outing these witches and their lies.
Either just before or just after the linz event, Christine Williams claimed to have got a phone call and to have called out my name down the line in 'fear.' She also got the customary condolences and advice on what to do by her dear, equally enraged, sisters, but of course I had never phoned the idiot. She was playing the 'Crucible' routine to a live audience who also took part in the same play.
Then Mike Stockdale, only suspecting that I was a person that rang him, I say 'suspecting' because I've read his board communication about it and have it saved, yet in short order all suspicion was removed and it was definitely me and I was going to meet him somewhere. Problem was I didn't know about it and the only place I want to see Stockdale is in Court explaining why he was stalking a friend of mine earlier this year.
Last in this bizarre list and probably the most bizarre event of all. One night when there was a hangbainer meltdown going on TM, a friend of mine got two calls from who? 'Me' of course, doing what? Threatening the friend and their family, by coincidence the hangbainer who melted down the same night disappeared from the boards but remains part of the inquiry.
So they feed off hysteria, not one of them has the clear judgement or presence of mind to take a breath. Instead they swallow their own lies hook, line and sinker. Even those telling the lies believe them and steam off to the Police or elsewhere, to repeat their lies without for a second considering that their complaints are harmful, false, and deliberately illegal. Their coup de grace, ace card, or winning shot always relies upon who they think I am and the hysteria package that excites them into delirium in the hot night but which disappears in the cold morning light.
Now to link the two behaviours. In the first (the stalking) they've left a trail and it's all recorded. In the second they've also left a trail, false complaints and lies. So how deranged are these people that transfer their hatred and persecution of David to anybody that does not agree with them, the answer very deranged, very bitter and very stupid.
The pen is my weapon of choice, and logic my companion, respect for the truth dominates my desire to reach any conclusion and I am unafraid about being wrong (or admitting it) or having made a mistake because it is something that adds to experience. I never try to make purchase from lies and never lie to benefit myself over another, I won't say my whole life has been like that because it hasn't. I have culminated a wide range of experiences, many of them tough, that have brought me home to a point of having compassion and the strength and love of my ancestors, that is why I will not be silent in the face of persecution, in the face of lying and stalking. I will resist, using the pen and loving the truth. I will use the language and insults of the gutter when required to vibrate the brains of the afflicted so that they lose their direction, I will unsettle them with words and logic but I will never prevent them going away and going about their own lives and business and leaving others alone.
On a final note a message to Kalnovitch, Williams, Cameron and others; a psychopath is a liar who never morally considers or feels responsible in anyway for the lies they tell about others. The lies like responsibility run off them like water. A psychopath is someone who lies about photos, who denies stalking children, who claims false harm in the loudest voice while maintaining harm upon others. A psychopath is one twisted sister.
Sunday, December 19, 2010
Letter from a correspondent....showing the sisters 'psycho much?'
The letter, slightly altered with permission...
Morning all!
I think it's probably that they are worried about the defamation case - goldnkiwi wasn't involved in that, and is probably being used. And just the time of year - Christmas to occupy their minds. I doubt that they have changed their minds!
Incidentally, did you notice that thread nina_s started about Assange? saying he was an internet terrorist? That amused me: what Assange did was different only in degree from what that lot did with revealing suppressed evidence etc. It seems to me that what is common to that group is a (to my mind) over-inflated respect for authority: the authority of the Police. And that their level of thinking is such that their authority needs to be personified in some way - so again, police, government ministers (rather than the abstract concept of 'justice'). That would go along with their targetting on individuals (Joe, Reed, other posters) rather than actually arguing the more abstract concepts of the evidence. It would also be consistent with their disparagement of the Privy Council as English ('Kiwis can do it themselves'), or, if not disparaging them, trying to distort the ruling to support their case. If I'm right, then the only argument that will ever work with them is the 'my Dad's bigger than your Dad' type - which is why they keep on about 'the majority'. Personally, if I believe something, it doesn't matter whether I'm the only person to believe it - what other people believe has no relevance except to make me double check my information and assumptions.
But it seems to me that this lends a clue as to where you might effectively go with your thoughts: to highlight their undermining of the police (by continually drawing attention to the incompetent investigation), of the Minister (by making it clear they don't trust the Cabinet to make a proper decision), of Crown Law (by questioning the way the case was prosecuted), of the witnesses such as Doyle and Weir (by drawing attention to the fact that they were not, in the end, credible). That is, if you can make a case for how they are actually attacking their own side. If you use Mike Stockdale and Taylor to illustrate this, they might have pressure put on them to shut up.
To borrow from above again in explanation as to why the sisters feel entitled to stalk and threaten....'And that their level of thinking is such that their authority needs to be personified in some way - so again, police, government ministers (rather than the abstract concept of 'justice'). That would go along with their targetting on individuals (Joe, Reed, other posters) rather than actually arguing the more abstract concepts of the evidence.'....A very valid point, the 'need' to show their own 'authority' of being 'right' in an ordered society of which they are pivotal and important, knowledgeable and so forth. It takes very little for those labouring under such a structured (whilst at the same time being fractured) mindset to see that they are 'allowed' to lead among the lessor mortals and take a stick to them as required. The fact that the sisters don't see such actions as law breaking but rather an enforcement of what is right and proper according to their own frailties and fears is for them a complex precipice in ever understanding themselves. They are safer being haters of a type that select easy and 'populist' targets as, according to the correspondence above describing nina_s, starting a particular type of thread that attacks wikileaks for the very same thing which she and the sisters did - leaked suppressed evidence.
But it goes further, because the obooks and nina_s of the world use terms such as 'project' when accusing others of what they actually do themselves. This is their complete failure in understanding the human condition, their own condition, because they always project away and don't, from fear, absorb. In effect they are lost to change or improvement through their own fears and need to project from themselves and onto others that which they don't like about themselves. They are fear-filled people but without the courage to understand what their 'projections' may do to others, indeed they resolve any misgivings or doubts that they may have about what they are doing by their protective shield of being 'superior.'
Therefore they see nothing inconsistent in being 'authority respectful' or on the other hand attacking authority when their own projections or expectations are not filled. They can't for example say, well I never knew about the blood in the barrel or that on Robin's shoe and therefore change my mind, instead they attack the police, the Jury, the Court because the verdict wasn't in accordance with their opinion. In some ways, it is sad to some degree, but even that would never mitigate the harm they are so willing to cause and be oblivious to from the protection of their own fractured personalities.
I'll end with a couple of old favourites... 'what about the family, the victims' then the procedure of running all the victims down. And another,... David lied when he said this or that, turning later to using.... David said.. as proof of something. Twisted sisters was the most appropriate phrase for that lot.
Morning all!
I think it's probably that they are worried about the defamation case - goldnkiwi wasn't involved in that, and is probably being used. And just the time of year - Christmas to occupy their minds. I doubt that they have changed their minds!
Incidentally, did you notice that thread nina_s started about Assange? saying he was an internet terrorist? That amused me: what Assange did was different only in degree from what that lot did with revealing suppressed evidence etc. It seems to me that what is common to that group is a (to my mind) over-inflated respect for authority: the authority of the Police. And that their level of thinking is such that their authority needs to be personified in some way - so again, police, government ministers (rather than the abstract concept of 'justice'). That would go along with their targetting on individuals (Joe, Reed, other posters) rather than actually arguing the more abstract concepts of the evidence. It would also be consistent with their disparagement of the Privy Council as English ('Kiwis can do it themselves'), or, if not disparaging them, trying to distort the ruling to support their case. If I'm right, then the only argument that will ever work with them is the 'my Dad's bigger than your Dad' type - which is why they keep on about 'the majority'. Personally, if I believe something, it doesn't matter whether I'm the only person to believe it - what other people believe has no relevance except to make me double check my information and assumptions.
But it seems to me that this lends a clue as to where you might effectively go with your thoughts: to highlight their undermining of the police (by continually drawing attention to the incompetent investigation), of the Minister (by making it clear they don't trust the Cabinet to make a proper decision), of Crown Law (by questioning the way the case was prosecuted), of the witnesses such as Doyle and Weir (by drawing attention to the fact that they were not, in the end, credible). That is, if you can make a case for how they are actually attacking their own side. If you use Mike Stockdale and Taylor to illustrate this, they might have pressure put on them to shut up.
To borrow from above again in explanation as to why the sisters feel entitled to stalk and threaten....'And that their level of thinking is such that their authority needs to be personified in some way - so again, police, government ministers (rather than the abstract concept of 'justice'). That would go along with their targetting on individuals (Joe, Reed, other posters) rather than actually arguing the more abstract concepts of the evidence.'....A very valid point, the 'need' to show their own 'authority' of being 'right' in an ordered society of which they are pivotal and important, knowledgeable and so forth. It takes very little for those labouring under such a structured (whilst at the same time being fractured) mindset to see that they are 'allowed' to lead among the lessor mortals and take a stick to them as required. The fact that the sisters don't see such actions as law breaking but rather an enforcement of what is right and proper according to their own frailties and fears is for them a complex precipice in ever understanding themselves. They are safer being haters of a type that select easy and 'populist' targets as, according to the correspondence above describing nina_s, starting a particular type of thread that attacks wikileaks for the very same thing which she and the sisters did - leaked suppressed evidence.
But it goes further, because the obooks and nina_s of the world use terms such as 'project' when accusing others of what they actually do themselves. This is their complete failure in understanding the human condition, their own condition, because they always project away and don't, from fear, absorb. In effect they are lost to change or improvement through their own fears and need to project from themselves and onto others that which they don't like about themselves. They are fear-filled people but without the courage to understand what their 'projections' may do to others, indeed they resolve any misgivings or doubts that they may have about what they are doing by their protective shield of being 'superior.'
Therefore they see nothing inconsistent in being 'authority respectful' or on the other hand attacking authority when their own projections or expectations are not filled. They can't for example say, well I never knew about the blood in the barrel or that on Robin's shoe and therefore change my mind, instead they attack the police, the Jury, the Court because the verdict wasn't in accordance with their opinion. In some ways, it is sad to some degree, but even that would never mitigate the harm they are so willing to cause and be oblivious to from the protection of their own fractured personalities.
I'll end with a couple of old favourites... 'what about the family, the victims' then the procedure of running all the victims down. And another,... David lied when he said this or that, turning later to using.... David said.. as proof of something. Twisted sisters was the most appropriate phrase for that lot.
Wednesday, December 15, 2010
Oh look retard rachael membery has finally decided to prove once and for all that's she's a dickhead...
"Blood smeared murder weapon" p15, 16 (D & G) aha "the case as stated by the prosecution." It is interesting that Justice should be termed a win or lose. i believe Justice is more objective than that.
Quotegoldnkiwi (610 ) 1:43 pm, Wed 15 Dec #31237
Good to see Rachael proving she's a dickhead - even though no proof was needed.
For some interesting insights into dickleberry membery donkey lover, go to Counterspin - the sick Truth, and see her and other stalkers at work on public record. See her for the spiteful lying pig she is and understand that she only now 'pretends' to research something over which she has already 'decided.' You're a real dick rach, no wonder stalker kalnovitch OBrien worked you out as a patsy - like they say 'there's one born every minute' even, as it is your case, when born in a donkey stall. eehaw.
Quotegoldnkiwi (610 ) 1:43 pm, Wed 15 Dec #31237
Good to see Rachael proving she's a dickhead - even though no proof was needed.
For some interesting insights into dickleberry membery donkey lover, go to Counterspin - the sick Truth, and see her and other stalkers at work on public record. See her for the spiteful lying pig she is and understand that she only now 'pretends' to research something over which she has already 'decided.' You're a real dick rach, no wonder stalker kalnovitch OBrien worked you out as a patsy - like they say 'there's one born every minute' even, as it is your case, when born in a donkey stall. eehaw.
Sunday, December 12, 2010
Accused Fiddler Kennard
: The poster linz4me continuing to post defamatory comment on the boards about me.
This rambling drunk idiot is posting allegations of criminal offending against me. This, from a person belonging to hate sites (and of which he participated) involved in stalking and intimidating members of my family, is highly offensive. This person who has allegations made against him of paedophilia is deranged. He has no evidence to support his allegation which would be a matter for the police anyway if true, not for a public message board made by a deranged idiot accused paedophile. This 'person' is trying to justify the behaviour of himself and other members of the hate-sites, I have all their activities recorded in terms of stalking and outing and am confident that it is evidence acceptable to the Courts, this 'person' on the other hand has no evidence to support his claim.
I think it is high time this idiot was removed from TM boards, in the event that he is not I will hold TM responsible to furnish proof to sustain his allegations because by publishing them TM are taking ownership of them as being 'factual.' His comments are not opinion, he is stating what he claims to be as 'fact' therefore I am entitled to obtain from TM as publisher proof of his allegations.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=343730&p=624&topic=7
Nos id in no was giving back what he got it was his own use of abuse that got him repeatedly banned from Trademe no one held a gun to his head. That he copped it in return was only fitting as he abused members of other posters families by searching the net for contact information. Your defence of his behaviour is not unexpected but is regrettable as it reduces any credibility you may once have had.
Bain is only of interest to me for the abuse of justice meeted out to a person unable to defend himself but does have family, siblings, nieces, and nephews who have had to watch a loved uncle be trashed in a most hideous way all totally unproven. Personally I believe that the defence method used is an abuse of process.
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linz4me (282 ) 10:46 pm, Sat 11 Dec #31164
Yours faithfully
Let's see you front up with your proof your rotten piece of crap Kennard. You and your filthy arsehole mates picked the wrong people when you stalked my family you mongrel dog. The 'loved uncle' was a fiddler Kennard and you're trying to cover up for one of your bros you sick deviant. Go read Beyond's blog and see your arsehole mate Racheal Membery stalking live...that's called proof.
This rambling drunk idiot is posting allegations of criminal offending against me. This, from a person belonging to hate sites (and of which he participated) involved in stalking and intimidating members of my family, is highly offensive. This person who has allegations made against him of paedophilia is deranged. He has no evidence to support his allegation which would be a matter for the police anyway if true, not for a public message board made by a deranged idiot accused paedophile. This 'person' is trying to justify the behaviour of himself and other members of the hate-sites, I have all their activities recorded in terms of stalking and outing and am confident that it is evidence acceptable to the Courts, this 'person' on the other hand has no evidence to support his claim.
I think it is high time this idiot was removed from TM boards, in the event that he is not I will hold TM responsible to furnish proof to sustain his allegations because by publishing them TM are taking ownership of them as being 'factual.' His comments are not opinion, he is stating what he claims to be as 'fact' therefore I am entitled to obtain from TM as publisher proof of his allegations.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=343730&p=624&topic=7
Nos id in no was giving back what he got it was his own use of abuse that got him repeatedly banned from Trademe no one held a gun to his head. That he copped it in return was only fitting as he abused members of other posters families by searching the net for contact information. Your defence of his behaviour is not unexpected but is regrettable as it reduces any credibility you may once have had.
Bain is only of interest to me for the abuse of justice meeted out to a person unable to defend himself but does have family, siblings, nieces, and nephews who have had to watch a loved uncle be trashed in a most hideous way all totally unproven. Personally I believe that the defence method used is an abuse of process.
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linz4me (282 ) 10:46 pm, Sat 11 Dec #31164
Yours faithfully
Let's see you front up with your proof your rotten piece of crap Kennard. You and your filthy arsehole mates picked the wrong people when you stalked my family you mongrel dog. The 'loved uncle' was a fiddler Kennard and you're trying to cover up for one of your bros you sick deviant. Go read Beyond's blog and see your arsehole mate Racheal Membery stalking live...that's called proof.
Saturday, December 11, 2010
Hello folks...
I see the sisters have been getting a little testy. I hope they tell someone who cares because I don't. Any regard for the sisters privacy went out the doors with the continued defamation, lies and stalking. I have no regard for the sisters in anyway, having an opinion is fine but deliberately lying sucks, and then stalking and threatening board users and their families for not being 'compliant' and going along with lies and a persecution campaign and expecting no reaction is naive to the extreme. But it is just warming up folks, a long way to go yet
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