Friday, November 21, 2025

                                                Finally, the keys to Scott's cell doors

I can't recall at the moment who put this link together, but it is brilliant, and it will open the Petition. The Petition has links throughout, but with funding. I would hope to put at least one (for The Court in as full prints, particularly this part, because of its visual impact. Then print the rest of this part with all the links open. Following this start is the affidavit of Tony Kiernan, which deals with the Ketch's arrival. One of the many interesting parts is the ketch shown at night alongside Scott's boat, the Blade.


And following it will be an insight into the elements that prove this is a Miscarriage of Justice. Although I'm unsure how long I've had it for. I endeavour to show how a complaint by Chris Watson, which was exactly on the mark about Pope in particular, was evaded in an "independent" inquiry by a retired Deputy Commissioner who claimed Pope made a mistake. Yeah right, and Scott went to prison for 26 years.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RX1C_bVd99DtBIDuXuT7DB7b5DRdJ0ww/view?usp=sharing



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RX1C_bVd99DtBIDuXuT7DB7b5DRdJ0ww/view?usp=sharing

Wednesday, November 19, 2025

 Interesting Article

                                       Scandal in The Police Commissioner's Office

The following article is an indication of a big shake-up in Police Headquarters. The first indication of probems at Police Headquarters was after the Arthur Thomas convictions were overturned. I personally had heard of some concerns when working on the Scott Watson case, however at that point, I didn't have time to consider the situation. Fortunately, I remember the person's name and will try to make contact.

It's fairly plain to me that there was a lot that went wrong at the top of the tree in Scott's case, and following that, there was little surprise that Pope and Fitzgerald gained promotions there. It looks like that too will implode in short order, much to the relief of not only supporters of Scott but also those who feel that there is little accountability at the top of the police ranks when it comes to wrongful convictions.

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Geoffrey Palmer: The McSkimming scandal shows we need a whole new Policing Act Geoffrey Palmer Published in The Spin Off November 18th 2025 Democracy requires a trusted system to uphold the rule of law. In this instance, the rule of law has been polluted at its source, argues former prime minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer KC. Recent events uncovering police failings and serious misconduct have wider implications for our democracy that need to be addressed urgently. I cannot recall an issue in the life of this government that has more far-reaching constitutional consequences: it goes to the heart of the protection that the rule of law provides for New Zealand’s democratic framework. To say the Independent Police Conduct Authority’s scathing report into how the force handled claims of sexual offending against disgraced former deputy commissioner Jevon McSkimming has been scandalous is an understatement. It found serious misconduct at the highest levels of police. Seldom in the annals of public policy has New Zealand suffered a worse failure of public officials. The report made a series of recommendations for NZ Police and the government, all of which have been accepted. A former police officer himself, police minister Mark Mitchell has said the public will see “big changes”. Public service minister Judith Collins promises it “must never happen again”. Unfortunately, we have seen this before: whistle-blower Louise Nicholas was not believed as a teenager accusing officers of rape, her complaints were buried and only decades later was the policeman handling the case found guilty of obstructing justice. That should have been warning enough. In April 2007 came the release of Dame Margaret Bazley’s Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct. She uncovered 313 complaints of sexual assault against 222 officers over 25 years, revealing a culture of silence shielding offending officers. There was a considerable amount of praise by the authorities, then, that they had solved the problem. But recent events show clearly this was not the case. Rot and decay has crept into the New Zealand democratic framework. Public service minister Judith Collins, police commissioner Richard Chambers and police minister Mark Mitchell arriving for a press conference at parliament in response to the release of the IPCA report on November 11, 2025 (Photo: Mark Mitchell/New Zealand Herald via Getty Images) In order to understand how serious these events are, it is necessary to understand the functions and powers entrusted to the police. New Zealand has a nationwide police force, unlike federal countries where law and order is split between state and federal governments. Clearly, a strong nationwide police force can be a potential danger when something goes wrong, as it has done here. The police are a disciplined force organised under a strict hierarchy in which orders are given and are carried out by subordinates. That fact itself means that wrongful orders can pervert the whole system. The New Zealand police have something close to a monopoly on the coercive legal powers they have over people. They have the power of arrest. They have the power to investigate suspected criminal offences. They have the power to bring prosecutions, under the general supervision of crown prosecutors. The force was first established here in 1886 and has existed continuously under various statutes ever since. Currently, police work under a detailed statute, the Policing Act 2008, the purpose of which is to “provide for policing services in New Zealand and to state the functions and provide for the governance and administration of the New Zealand Police”. The Policing Act sets out, in sections 8 and 9, the principles upon which the act is based and then the functions of the police. The principles are: (a) principled, effective, and efficient policing services are a cornerstone of a free and democratic society under the rule of law; (b) effective policing relies on a wide measure of public support and confidence; (c) policing services are provided under a national framework but also have a local community focus; (d) policing services are provided in a manner that respects human rights; (e) policing services are provided independently and impartially; (f) in providing policing services every Police employee is required to act professionally, ethically, and with integrity. The functions are: (a) keeping the peace; (b) maintaining public safety; (c) law enforcement; (d) crime prevention; (e) community support and reassurance; (f) national security; (g) participation in policing activities outside New Zealand; (h) emergency management. These general principles and functions were plainly inadequate to prevent what occurred in recent events. The whole act should be reconsidered now, not merely amended. Former deputy police commissioner Jevon McSkimming leaving Wellington District Court after pleading guilty to eight charges of possessing objectionable publications on November 6, 2025 (Photo: Mark Mitchell/New Zealand Herald via Getty Images) The police are invested with great powers, so the consequences for democracy are serious where those powers are not properly exercised or they are abused. Clearly, they have been abused here. Democracy requires a trusted system to uphold the rule of law. In this instance the rule of law has been polluted at its source, when the higher echelons have divided into groups and become immersed in issues of personal advantage rather than executing their responsibilities according to law. Putting right the profound failures that have occurred is an issue of vital importance. The prime minister should be centrally involved here, articulating the serious nature of these issues and how to fix them. So far, he has been a bystander. The cure here will not emanate from a discredited senior police elite. It is ministers who must take responsibility for the failures, rectify them and drive the legislation that will be required. A policy process of the highest quality the government machine can produce is what is needed. The 135-page IPCA report stands as a colossus over the whole series of these events, and is a document that people should read. New Zealand is fortunate that this agency stood up and performed in an exemplary way. Its advice must be followed in all respects. It is a remorseless and detailed analysis of serious wrong-doing. So careful is the analysis that it seems impossible on the facts it lays out to be in any doubt as to the serious nature of the abuses it exposes. It makes many detailed recommendations: 13 for police and a further two for the government regarding police oversight. All have been accepted. Ministers have made strong statements about remedial action, including proposing appointing an inspector-general to give the highest level of independent oversight of police. Questions remain over how this will be implemented. The steps necessary to perfect the remedial action are perhaps more elaborate than has so far been contemplated. Getting it right this time is imperative. The record on these issues is deplorable. Unless real care and rigour are employed there is a risk of push-back from the rotten police culture so clearly at work in the existing system. This may be seen earlier rather than later. All the recommendations must be given statutory teeth. Much care is needed in the legislative process, where much can be lost between cup and lip. The cabinet paper approving legislative policy should be published after it has been made so that there can be some assurance that efforts to clean the Augean stables of the New Zealand Police do not have to be addressed again in the future. The present act was entirely ineffectual to prevent these deplorable events which must be unable to recur. It would seem appropriate to enact a whole new Policing Act in light of these events. The rule of law deserves stern protection

Tuesday, October 14, 2025

The Watson case turned inside out.

 


                Scott Watson, one of the worst Judicial Failures in New Zealand


Furthermore, the hidden material now revealed is destructive to the entire police inquiry and prosecution. To overcome future Miscarriages of Justice, the Courts must be unforgiving as to even minor malfeasance that sees evidence lost or altered, and encourage inquiries and prosecutions into even the smallest transgressions. New Zealand has seen at least over150 years of false imprisonment in just a few of the current or recently resolved cases. Perhaps the Maney case being the most obvious and blatant. There is also blatant malfeasance abroad in the Watson case from the outset.  That estimated 150 years of relatively recent false imprisonment does not record the 150 odd years to the 1950s where innocent prisoners were hanged. One example being Mokomoko. And arguably the very young Te Whiu, and John Bolton in which it was found post-mortem the farm well had heightened levels of arsenic as he did himself.

 

[875] Contrary to the defence submission at trial that it was equivocal, we consider the evidence of the drop-off location did undermine the plausibility of the defence theory that the lone man’s boat was a ketch. The yacht, on Mr Wallace’s evidence as the driver of the Naiad, was in a raft of three to five boats in the vicinity of the Spirit of Marlborough, which was large and distinctive. Behind the lone man’s boat was what Mr Wallace called a “gin palace launch”, a “great big [boat] like a Markline”. That description appears consistent with the Naiad approaching Blade and seeing the Kaela Rose behind it.273 Mr Wallace’s evidence as to the drop-off location was corroborated by the evidence of Hayden Morresey and Sarah Dyer as to the direction the Naiad travelled when it left the Tamarack.

 

The difficulty with the above logic, is that Hayden and Sarah did not identify Mr Watson as the mystery man.

 

[876] That drop-off location responds to the ketch theory because, based on our review of the evidence, nobody other than Mr Wallace and Mr Morresey said they saw a ketch in that area. It was a matter for the jury to consider the likelihood that a ketch could have come into that location, been rafted to another boat or anchored on its own for the time the lone man was at Furneaux Lodge, then left without being seen. 273 See the photograph at [846] above.

 

This is also wrong. There are many consistent sightings of the ketch in that area.

 

[877] We repeat that Mr Perkins and Ms Egden said Mr Watson told them that night that he had a ketch.274 There is no doubt Mr Perkins and Ms Egden were referring to Mr Watson because they were involved in and witnessed respectively the Perkins incident, which Mr Watson admitted he was involved in.275 Mr Perkins’ evidence that Mr Watson told him he had a “double masted ketch” was not challenged in cross-examination. Although Amanda Egden was challenged about her evidence, there was no suggestion the man who made the comment was different from the man she had otherwise encountered and who we know was Mr Watson. Those consistencies also apply to Ms MacFarlane. It would be a remarkable coincidence if somebody who was described using the same descriptors as were used to describe Mr Watson (scruffy, shaggy hair, stubble) was also at Furneaux Lodge and also suggesting he had a ketch, describing it as “the only double masted yacht out in the bay”.

 

There are now suggestions of whom the man was at the pool table, and he in fact did have a “double masted” ketch.

 

The Court appears not to have considered the “new” information regarding the Ketch the Toroa and the likeness of its skipper to an older version of Mr Watson, including tattoos. Mr Watson had no reason to claim he had a Ketch, but the Toroa owner did. One might consider the uncontested fact that Olivia flatly refused to go aboard the hire craft, and if expecting to be going to a ketch, why she would silently and suddenly passively accept a berth on a much smaller boat. It is clear from other evidence that the photo file has been tampered with, photos removed and so on. The time stamp may not be correct either, but the accepted evidence of Olivia’s rejection of going aboard the Tamarack and instead preferring a smaller boat in a raft up tests the Court’s credibility. The Court, for all its work on the file, overlooked, or did not consider the file was doctored, which factually is the case.

 

There was absolutely no evidence from persons in the “raft up,” that support the Crown’s case, it was ludicrous proposition to accept without single witness in support.

 

There is little doubt that from the 4 numbered paras directly above 874 through 877, the Court with the full gambit of evidence now available around Queen Charlotte Sound would have had to accept the file evidence and the new evidence that supports ketch sightings. Because at this point in the Judgement the Court is establishing its reasons to dismiss Mr Watson’s appeal both new and old evidence combined (including the evidence it did not see) would have needed the narrative to be interrupted with highly pertinent material that remains unknown to it. In fact a steady stream of material reporting the ketch’s arrival at Furneaux, anchoring, leaving there. Henceforth, the decision by Mr Pope to abandon the ketch search and focus the attention on a much smaller boat could be seen at the least as unfortunate,  or at its unfortunate best for Mr Watson to echo Mr Pope’s verbalised thoughts regarding Mr Watson being of the right pedigree. Mr Watson did not conjure up the witnesses that help his case for innocence, it was not Mr Watson that deleted material from 2 statements helpful to him about this very matter. He had no control over that. It was not him that called for all sightings of ketches to be disregarded and for that to be publicised. A prudent investigator would have kept on track with both options and leave “gut instinct” or “prejudice” aside. Resulting from that would have seen the police investigation enlarge at Mapua, where another witness recalls for the Court, speaking to those aboard the Ketch at Mapua and soon after contacting police who would eventually investigate and lead to the confusion between the MK and the Ses Walker in another mishap in this case.

 

Writing of this, on this day the 5th of October 2025, echoes a call by one woman to police to see her statements years after it was made only find it altered, and another to receive her statement after roughly the same passage of time and find it had also had been altered. Earlier there was a suggestion of a doctored file, one of these revelations was time present when the couple were alive, the other simply to close another door on unpalatable evidence for the Crown on its mission to convict Mr Watson and stifle, or rid itself of evidence exculpating him. That hasn’t been successful, but arguably now it can be fully presented to the Supreme Court for the Judiciary to look into itself and the role it has played in this false conviction. There has somewhat been a battle of experts that would not have been required to the same extent if the heart of the fully hidden, or partly hidden evidence of material relevant to this case was heard if not earlier, then at least in 2024.

 

The two-trip theory

 

The recent Court of Appeal decision is a tragedy for all the families involved. Whilst the Judgement of 2025 is reminiscent of the first Court of Appeal decision in that it is bereft of advancement of the full understanding of the case today, notwithstanding the hair evidence. Much of the “new” material has arisen from police files or elsewhere, then supported by careful consideration of the files. That should have been the priority for the Court of Appeal, but something has gone wrong. There is evidence of the file being “cleansed” in a very amateur way, what may have been more may have covertly removed may never be known.

 

For the families involved, the 2025 COA Judgement is not based on the substantial new evidence presented to Counsel before the 2017 RPOM Application and the time before it was fully finalised. There is an example in the COA’s para 10 repeated below where we see in the highlighted red that the OIC in charge of the boat phase accepts late arriving boats may not have been seen. However, a late in the day arriving boat has now been identified as a ketch, it’s arrival time noted, its parked position noted along with its leaving time and is indeed stated to be outside the 300m range described by the OIC. Extensive new evidence likely to influence a Jury was not before the COA.

 

 

Saturday, October 11, 2025

No Ketch Right?

 


                                                   No Ketch in the Watson case?


This is one of many affidavits attesting to a Ketch being sighted 1st of January 1988. Details are removed for anonymity purposes


Affidavit of                                     ,                                  Officer.

of                                                    

To whom it may concern:

On the morning of 1 January 1998, I was travelling up Queen Charlotte Sound in my                                                                      At approximately 9.30 am I saw a ketch just south of Endeavour Inlet, off Snake Point. It had a small raised coach roof cabin, a lot of ropework, a blue stripe and portholes. It was a very distinctive yacht, like a 1960s vintage design. It was heading very slowly in the direction of Picton. It was on my starboard side and I had to go around it. I was doing about 6-7knots. There are several memorable matters which I recall clearly. As I motored close to it down its port side I saw an unshaven -man standing amidships by the mast. I waved to the man but he did not wave back. He just stood there and stared back at me. I recall this in particular because it is unusual behaviour. I also recall looking towards the helm to see who was sailing the yacht but there was no one there, nor anywhere else on deck. 1 assumed it was being steered by autopilot. the companionway hatch was closed and this too is unusual for a vessel underway.

I did not report this sighting at first, assuming there have been many sightings and that I would be just "one of hundreds" reporting it. About two weeks later I considered it my civic duty to report what I had seen and so I rang Operation TAM's advertised number in Blenheim. My call was answered by a woman who told me the police were not all that interested in that sighting. I heard no more about it.



Sworn                                    etc

Tuesday, August 5, 2025

 


                                              Scott Watson, is this the big falling down?


As many readers will be aware, there appears to be a substantial change regarding the "key" evidence in the Watson case - the 2 hairs found in the lab and said to be from the blanket discovered on Scott's boat. The various problems with the magic hairs continue.

I say magic because they were invisible when Scott's boat Blade was searched, they were also invisible when hairs were taken 1 by 1 from a blanket taken off the Blade in the Lab. Only to become visible after there was a second visit to the Hope household when more hairs were recovered. How convenient for the Crown. Apparently, lost hairs are showing up again, but they don't test as having come from Ben or Olivia. A "new" Scientist has appeared in the lab working during the time of the critical hair examinations but not taking notes.

And also, how inconvenient for the Crown the arrival of the Blade at Eerie Bay on New Year's Day shifted from late morning to early evening, after the father and marijuana grower suddenly recovered his memory and noted that he recalled the arrival time because of a horse race run late in the day. What was not convenient however, was the statement of a young person that police left in the file who saw the Blade from another vessel when passing Eerie Bay in the morning.

We can also now consider the evidence of the mystery ketch being seen late in the afternoon on New Years Eve, and of the photo file being cleansed and evidence of the mystery ketch disappearing. And the list goes on and on, until there is nothing left pointing at Scott ever meeting the couple or of they meeting him. The conversants around the pool table now disprove the claim that Scott was even playing pool and inviting young women to take a trip on his ketch to Tonga. We know the name of that man now and the name of his boat, which was indeed a ketch. 

The singing prison "stoolies" sing no more, we find out ex-Detective Fitzgerald "forgot" to charge one of them for a serious assault. There are witnesses to show Ben and Olivia were seen alive at Mapua Wharf when they were said to be dead, and witnesses that saw the ketch there with the young couple aboard. We've heard from a ex-soldier being offered to be let out of prison if he gave evidence against Scott. In short, the case is an unholy mess and that has been known for some years but still has not fully reached the Court because of rules around "new" evidence and appeals that penalise the innocent for decades as we have seen in recent time, with Alan Hall and Gail Maney and those falsely charged with her.

It's time to swap the magic for the truth, and treat potential Miscarriages of Justice as emergencies, and not fart about for years with a system that punishes the innocent.

Wednesday, May 21, 2025

                                                        Heckler Crisis Alert

The following has a nonsense assertion in it from an Employment Lawyer who says because the man was wearing a Tonkin and Taylor T Shirt when he engaged with Winston Peters he brought his employer into disrepute.

Firstly, Tonkin and Taylor who apologised on behalf of the man threw in under the bus. No doubt that do get Government work so free speech is out the window. I doubt even Winston took such a narrow view. He gets as good as he gets and most people see him relishing in such situations. He's even been ordered out of Parliament over the years.

This Lawyer seems like a publicity hunter and how better to make the press than by trying to cross a person's personal views with that of his employer. She needs to grow up or as Winston might say as someone who should get some big person's pants.

Publicity hunters these days, so dramatic and frantic:


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/peters-heckling-it-is-absolutely-a-sackable-offence-employment-lawyer/ar-AA1FaLsx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=074d68a01e3446d9a26cc32f2b86d83e&ei=58


Thursday, April 3, 2025

Scott Watson Third Royal Prerogative of Mercy Application?


Dated 3/4/25

Her Excellency: The Rt Hon Dame Cindy Kiro Governor General

 

PS please delete my earlier email, it was a rushed effort before heading to work. My apologies for that and may I have an acknowledgement of receipt of this email please.

 

I make this request under the Royal Prerogative of Mercy Statute  S 406 of the Crimes Act.

 

The background here is that in 2017 I applied for what was a successful Exercise of the Royal Prerogative of Mercy for serving prisoner Scott Watson. The application was made to your predecessor Dame Patsy Reddy. The reviewer appointed was Sir Graham Panckhurst KC.

 

I had been premature with the application submission largely because of the enthusiasm of Mr Watson, whom I have only met once after I sent him a draft of the final document, to have it submitted. But more importantly later, because of an abundance of fresh information regarding the case which resulted in further exculpatory material from members of the public whose contact details I was given, or who contacted me post the submission and later its outcome. There were others I contacted directly resulting from information from the file as well as new information provided voluntarily.

 

When that additional information was completed, I took it to now Judge Jonathan Krebs, then practising privately, who having read it commented that particular information around a ketch having been sighted at Mapua in the South Island on the 3rd of January 1998, meant that Scott must be innocent because the foundation of the Crown case was that the missing couple, Ben Smart and Olivia Hope, had been determined by police and the prosecution to have been killed on January the 1st. There are several affidavits in support of the Mapua sighting including from the equivalent to (withheld) who was tipped off (by a local business) about the ketch being tied up at the wharf and others who had seen it with the couple aboard after they were said to be dead by the Crown. The (withheld) chatted with the crew on the ketch tied up at the wharf. When returning home he made the effort to ring police which he explains in his affidavit.

 

For some reason, I was not sent a copy of Sir Graham’s written response to the RPOM  until approx. 2 years after the announcement was made that his finding was that the case was to be sent back to the Court of Appeal. In those passing years, I often wondered why Scott had not been pardoned as the Mapua evidence I believed was crucial. Later, I became concerned that Sir Graham had not seen the additional evidence, and remain unsure why.

 

On a careful reading of Sir Graham’s finding there were significant things found in Scott’s favour,  the 2 prisoner witnesses’ testimony was rejected. The Crown claim that the couple were able to be locked in the cabin was finally exposed as an impossibility because the Lock was on the inner side of the hatch. And also that scratches made on the inner side of the hatch could not have been made by the couple because the scratches extended past the point, where if the hatch was closed, they could not have reached the outer edge. There was evidence at the trial of the children of Mr Watson’s sister doing that damage months earlier, which along with Sir Graham’s observations was destructive to the Crown case and the claim by the Prosecutor, (Now Judge Davison of the High Court), that it didn’t matter how Watson got back to the shore after being returned to his boat alone – the fact was, according to Davison, just that Watson did - and it was unimportant how. He quite properly may have been relying on the accounts of those in charge of gathering and storing evidence while later removing exculpatory material from the file. I expect in the fullness of time criminal charges will be laid for that with other examples in the latest evidence which will also warrant investigation.

 

It must be hard for Mr Watson to know all this “new” material is at hand but it apparently has no significance to his release on Parole as the case continues to wind through the Courts.

This situation appears as a disastrous failure in the system which has seen what will turn out, like others before him, to be innocent prisoners held for years, even decades longer, than those properly convicted of similar crimes. Neither the Parole Board nor Corrections seem to have a satisfactory method with which to deal with the few in the system who claim at great cost to themselves and their families, to be innocent.

 

I write to you in confidence that Mr Watson has the proof of his innocence, part of which could not be heard at the COA because I understand possibly that it was outside the scope of the RPOM findings. Furthermore, Mr Watson struggles to be paroled on what is outdated or superseded material on his file relating to the murders alleged against him. Whilst Sir Graham dismissed the 2 Watson prisoner secret witnesses accounts, I understand their evidence remains part of the case against Mr Watson’s parole – if not still directly, possibly floating in the minds of the earliest psychologists who put pen to paper regarding assessments of Mr Watson and his prison behaviour. I have correspondence which shows Corrections were unaware of the 2 primary Witness's evidence being set aside, the 2 witness's evidence does not even have the basics of matching – something it was implied Mr Watson was responsible for as well.

 

My understanding of the working of an RPOM application was from a description given by a celebrated Privy Councillor, Lord Diplock, who said that where Justice stops the RPOM (mercy) begins. Could you please intervene in Mr Watson’s case by seeking either Sir Graham or another such person to look at the material that did not reach him when he considered Scott Watson’s RPOM, or recommend any such other act that binds Crown officials such as a special investigator to look at matters around the Watson file being cleansed of exculpatory material – photos are gone, and solid citizens indicate their statements were changed when later they were forwarded to them. Doing so would set a clear precedent as to where the Justice stopped in this particular case. Secondly, would you seek that neutral consideration is given to Scott Watson (and others like him protesting innocence) the small dignity of Parole Boards and Corrections accepting certain prisoners who with some strong basis of pleas for innocence are not kept longer in prison than the guilty because they do not admit their guilt. There is no advantage for a long term prisoner to take the route of claiming innocence, because it most likely will increase their time spent in prison on occasion as we have seen by decades. It must be very few prisoners, who would consider that, apart from the innocent. Whilst clearly it is inevitable that some innocent prisoners have in vernacular terms, just “copped it” to ensure being released.

 

As it is, you already have on your files that Mr Watson has given me permission to represent his pleas for the ROPM. I expect you will have no objections to me letting his Counsel know, along with the public in due course the details of this matter. On your advice, I will submit the further exculpatory material files not seen by Sir Graeme or indeed Corrections or you may seek them directly from his Lawyers who are likely to have further additions to it.

 

I have used RPOM 3 for the subject matter here. Please see below the link to the radio interview with the former Chair of the NZ Parole Board Ron Young in which Mr Young frankly says the Parole Board treat everyone as guilty.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Brian McDonald

 

PS please excuse again the mis-drafted earlier email.

 

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