When I read parts of the Crown's closing address in the Lundy retrial I was troubled. The Prosecution closing address was heralded as 'brilliant' or similar by Steve Braunius of the NZ Herald. He had reported on the trial from day one and wrote that the closing was something of a surprise package, he would later write after the verdict that he thought Lundy was innocent. That caused me to think of what a closing address actually is in reality. In theory it is surely a summation of facts and circumstantial evidence with a cross to reasonable speculation built from those facts. Fair enough really, apart from the fact that in the Lundy retrial the brilliance of the closing was speculation based on speculation rather than fact. What the Crown had needed to bring to the trial was clear, and undeniable evidence beyond reasonable doubt that material found on Lundy's shirt was the DNA of his wife. They couldn't do that, so they weaved a picture instead, a mirage.
First of all there is clearly still a defence for Lundy if such DNA had been found on his shirt. However, all that I heard or read was that material found on his shirt was claimed by prosecution experts to have been Christine's DNA with defence experts saying that it categorically wasn't Christine's DNA or that it wasn't conclusively proven by the Crown (or the experts called by the Crown) testing procedures, to be her DNA. Before going on this is a suitable time to recall that Mark Lundy had been given a retrial partly on the basis of a hidden opinion by a Crown advisor of his expert view that the DNA was too degraded to be reliably relied upon to maintain a conviction against Lundy. Accordingly, the Crown were tasked with accepting that view and either deciding not to hold a retrial or find 'fresh' evidence proving the NZ pathologist was wrong whilst the American scientist whose evidence the ultimately relied upon was right. By finally deciding on a retrial they needed to find someone who could take the material into 'safe' territory as something that could be relied on to give a reliable testing result. By all accounts, having chosen the retrial, they didn't manage to get a universally reliable testing result using peer reviewed methods. More about this later, in the meantime back to that closing.
Had there been an absence of any concerns about the validity of opinions regarding the claim that Lundy was found to have his wife's DNA on his shirt I don't think there is any argument that the closing was appropriately able to make purchase of that as a fact. However, no such unequivocal facts exist. What does exist are certain claims and counter claims. I have to ask myself how the hell does the Prosecutor get away with such mesmerising mantras as to the effect of 'he [Lundy] had no business having his wife's DNA on his shirt.' Is there an assumption abroad in the NZ Judiciary that it is all right for a Lawyer to summarise a case to a Jury without the normal qualifications that Lawyers are usually most careful to employ, as looks the case here? Of course 'may have been' or 'you might think having heard the witnesses' is a far less compelling narrative, but in the Lundy case correct because it avoids confusion, it extends doubt where doubt actually exists. I seem to recall evidence that the DNA may have been animal DNA if DNA at all.
So where is the line that the Prosecution appear to have breached? Now that the case is under appeal I look forward to perhaps seeing that line tested. If there were ever a case when a Judge should have insisted on a Prosecution closing being based solely on fact, rather than speculative extensions built from uncertain forensics, Lundy surely should have been that case. After 14 years or so there is no conclusive proof that Lundy had his wife's DNA on his shirt, not conclusive beyond reasonable doubt according to Dr Stephen Bustin called by the defence whose article "The MIQE Guidelines: Minimum Information for Publication of Quantitative Real-Time PCR Experiments" has been cited over 3000 times.
Below there is a comment from where I have gathered "The MIQE Guidelines: Minimum Information for Publication of Quantitative Real-Time PCR Experiments" from Chris Halkides on another post here which refers to the Lundy case. A click on Chris Halkides name reveals his professional interests in reviewing the credentials of Dr Stephen Bustin as a defence witness. This adds to the disquiet about the Lundy closing and verdict. Quite clearly is shows that Dr Bustin, a leader in his field, would never go where the Prosecutor went with his story, because it was a hopeful explanation that could convince a Jury of something that was doubtful. The Prosecutor said unequivocally that it was Christine's DNA yet a leading researcher whose publication on real time experiments, that has been referenced over 3000 times, could not agree with the test methods relied upon by the Prosecutor's witnesses and consequently the results which the Prosecutor, wrongfully it may be argued on Appeal, was claimed to be conclusive by the Crown. It was never conclusive, not in the first trial and not in the second so how was Lundy given a 'fair' trial when the Judge allowed the Crown to close using speculation based on speculation and not fact. It's not fair in my opinion and touches upon a grey area in our system where reality can depart and be replaced by fiction. It is a fiction that the DNA found on Lundy's shirt was proven to be his wife's DNA. It will also be a fiction if the Court of Appeal 'place' themselves in the mind of Juror's and determine that the Jury having 'heard all the evidence and counter evidence, having been warned by the Judge about [opinion] evidence to use their common sense when addressing its value either for the Crown case, or against it' were the Judges of those sole 'facts.' First of all they weren't facts and secondly therefore, the Prosecutor ought not have been allowed to set them out as facts. This grey area of 'Juror's mind' is a modern day witch craft, if some of the Jurors were capable of distinguishing theory from facts there is no test that allows a conclusion that there were some who were not - and that therefore to avoid the 'grey' the Judge should not have allowed the Prosecution to claim that it was 'Christine's DNA' only that the Crown had opinions that it was.
Obviously the qualifications would have weakened the force of the 'brilliant' closing, however, would have left little room for doubt as to what any Juror 'might' have thought. Relying on that to be spelt out by the Judge later, was not only too late, but too dangerous. Am I being too cautious? I don't think so, I wanted to see a fair trial - Lundy was entitled to it by Law. Were opinions sent abroad from the Courts through media and other snippets that Lundy had his wife's DNA on his shirt? They were, and I know that having read the subject on Kiwi Blog, letters to the editor, and even reports of it having been spoken about on talkback radio - Lundy had his wife's DNA on his shirt, end of story.
So the 'fact' is deeply within the public mind but who knows to what extent, (and that is the question for the COA if this is a point on appeal,) whether or not it was challenged by the Defence at the time or rebutted in the Defence's own closing - the extent of the damage to a fair trial cannot be known, nor can how deeply planted the Prosecutor's mantra was in the Jury's mind, or that of some Jurors. It was speculation based on opinion that was divided that the matter was DNA at all, let alone belonging to Christine, further speculation by the COA as to the affect is arguably improper. As I referred earlier, in the wider picture should the Crown be able to cite as facts things which are not conclusive at any time - or more particular in support of a very weak case. No, a 1000 times no. The Prosecution can use what they have honestly, not repeat something over and over to a Jury painting a picture using paint that 'may' exist but which can brought to life with brilliant oratory to a Jury whose capacity of differentiating 'fact' from 'speculation' can only be unknown.
Just as an aside here and given thought whilst pondering great oratory, Peter Williams QC, now in fact Sir Peter Williams QC, fairly regarded as a brilliant legal strategist and orator, interesting to consider that had he been involved in Lundy's defence he may well have objected loudly and in front of the Jury, as well as in chambers, that the Prosecution were trying to take advantage of conclusive evidence that didn't exist, and continued to do so each time the Prosecutor made the claim about the DNA again, and again, in his closing. I also 'speculate' (because this is not fact, but rather an attempt to show the damage that can be caused by a Court remaining passive, assuming the thoughts, prejudices, biases or comprehension capacities of Jurors and how that might be corrected in summing up) that Sir Peter might also have argued strongly in his closing that the Crown wanted the Jury to believe something which the Crown had not proved, and they did that to show that Mark Lundy could have killed his own beautiful daughter whom the Jury had heard he loved deeply. On return of a guilty verdict he may have asked to poll the Jury (if such is still allowed) or even asked them if they accepted as 'fact' that there was conclusive evidence of Christine's DNA having been found on Lundy's shirt.
Of course these speculative comments about William's approach, had he been involved, are an speculative illustration of what can happen when opinion is allowed to be confused with fact, despite the way it may be attempted to be put back in order later. More is needed from the Courts, more was needed from the Court in the Lundy case. The Prosecutor should not have been allowed to speculate on speculation - it was too damn dangerous. Something else that lingers about the Jury trial are the relatively common 'guesstimates' that NZ scientists give in evidence at times. From memory in the Lundy trial one expert gave evidence that the DNA was 4million times 'more likely' to have come from Christine that any other person. Well, I've worked out some similar arithmetic that the particular scientist was 4 million more times likely to be wrong if he or she calculated such resolutions not using peer reviewed methods.
Remember also, the NZ pathologists who said the DNA was too degraded to be relied upon and whose opinion was withheld, wrongly by the Prosecution in the first trial - not only was his opinion not put the Jury, or revealed to the Defence - but the Prosecution went onto 'find' a scientist who would say that it was Christine's DNA using a method which was not reviewed at all by his peers at the time, let alone accepted. Trial 2 arrives and the Prosecution forensic witnesses are at loggerheads with the views of an peer accepted expert's opinion who said that he would be very reluctant to accept the RNA work against Lundy if it was offered for publication.
I freely admit that I have the scantest ability to clearly follow the testing and procedures that Dr Busten has been able to set out as a model sought for over 3000 references, a number more than the entire number of homicides in New Zealand over the last 20 years or so, and that the speculative reference that Sir Peter Williams might have made to the Jury that the Crown stretched the science in an attempt to prove something that didn't happen - that Mark Lundy killed his beautiful daughter, could have influenced me as a Juror to conclude that Mark Lundy didn't get a fair trial.
We know from media reports that the appeal is based around the forensic evidence. Well and good, but there will be others beside myself who will be interested to see how it is that in a trial it can be said that a man had DNA belonging to his wife on his shirt when the proof of that is inconclusive.
Cheers to Professor Chris Halkides for the following:
Chris Halkides
has left a new comment on your post "Lundy
resentenced; but is it over?":
I have recently had a chance to review the credentials of the defense's two
main expert witnesses against the RNA evidence. Both are very good, but Dr.
Stephen Bustin's credentials are superb. He has written books on the subject of
how to quantitate nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) by polymerase chain reaction. His
article "The MIQE Guidelines: Minimum Information for Publication of
Quantitative Real-Time PCR Experiments" has been cited over 3000 times. He
said that he would be very reluctant to accept the RNA work against Lundy if it
were offered for publication. I don't see how it could get any clearer than
that.
Nostalgia NZ, The Amanda Knox case showed me how the pattern works.Chris Halkides and Charlie Wilkes describe a process. Amanda thanks a huge number of people. There is no simple way forward, and Amy Adams is a clone . It is not too late for Mark, he is stone cold innocent, and his wife and daughter were killed unfortuitously.
ReplyDeleteHi Samson. It's nearly always the bizarre motives that decry miscarriages of Justice it seems, then along comes the improbable evidence, or evidence somehow 'missed' earlier. Both those events happened in the case of Amanda Knox, I'm glad she was freed because she was imprisoned on the basis of little more than outrage as to what she allegedly had done in an imagined sexual frenzy.
ReplyDeleteI'm reserved in my opinion of Amy Adams. She has been low key and pragmatic particularly about David Bain's application for compensation and I think her view regarding family violence is in the architecture that Bill English is constructing about spending for ends and prevention along with good outcomes, not for revenge which is expensive in so many ways.
No it isn't too late for Mark. The DNA evidence favours him, as does lack of any sighting at all of him even during the Crown's second version. It looks as though the prosecutor mesmerised the Jury into feeling they must convict, mentioning over and over the dna on his shirt which you may know was not conclusive and presumably will feature again.
Nostalgia-NZ, I am more than intrigued by the Lundy case, and how it fits into the NZ murder cases, starting with Wallace James Bolton, but not excluding others. I do not know who reads your very comprehensive site, but there are endless issues.
ReplyDeleteAmy Adams stated that there is no need for an external process, the checks and balances work, but this is a proven false statement when there was no recourse for Thomas Pora and Bain without huge endeavour by unpaid activists, Sprott and Booth, McKinnel, and Karam. When a minister of justice makes a false statement and it remains unchallenged by the NZ media, we know that the system has closed ranks. The Americans are fearless, and attack the system. Chris Halkides suggests NZ should adopt, as in his state of North Carolina, an independent review authority. The Lundy case is no different, but the truth will be revealed by history. The New Zealand police have closed the case and a dangerous killer has got away with it.
The case can be solved. I have contacted Amy Adams and had a response. She will no doubt be anxious about the appeal, and what transpires.
Samson, as for where the Lundy case fits there is little to argue. He hasn't been proved guilty if emotion is put aside and one looks for substantial supporting proof of his guilt. If the DNA evidence is not clear, and I agree with Chris Halkides view, that a scientist whose work has been referenced over 3,000 times is ignored to the peril of justice. I needed to see something irrefutable that proved Lundy travelled that morning (previously it was evening of course) to his family home, when drunk and unobserved by any living person, that would support the Crown's experts on the dna issue, remove doubt and scepticism of the Crown's 'previous' story of Lundy driving a breakneck speed, unobserved, dressed in drag, able to run in the night from a house despite being overweight, unfit and apparently drunk despite having no motive.
ReplyDeleteSo the Lundy case sits alongside other miscarriages of justice and I believe for that reason will not go away. Walter James Bolton, who you mention above, was despatched it is argued with undue haste after being found guilty of poisoning his wife on their farm which had a water supply high in cyanide. The circumstances of his conviction and execution appear to have at least in part resulted in capital punishment being abandoned in this country.
There is a big gap in the idea that Justice is served in NZ for those falsely imprisoned. For that group there is no help from the state, no removal of the bias that sees the state lethargic when confronted by evidence or doubt regarding a conviction. You may be right but I am unsure that the current Minister of Justice has claimed there is a robust system to ensure the righting of false imprisonment, certainly previous Ministers have claimed that - when clearly it is the opposite as the cases you list above show.
I think with cases like that of Mark Lundy and Watson I'd like to believe they are guilty, that would reconcile a feeling that the system fails and then has no ability to right itself, but the evidence against both men is not substantial, in fact there is an argument that it doesn't exist.
The Bain case is shredded by forensic insight, while that of Lundy is held together by an unproved theory (or second theory) unsupported by that which the Crown insists holds it together - clear forensic proof.
Nostalgia-NZ, Amy Adams said this
ReplyDelete"And reaction from the system? Justice Minister Adams has been quick to pour scorn on the background of some involved in the NZPIP.
"I note that many of the people involved in the panel have been advocates for the defence in many high profile cases which could lead to perceptions that the panel reviews may not be impartial," she says.
Adams adds that: "These self-initiated review groups exist in various places, however it's no substitute for an impartial judicial-level review and its findings carry no legal weight. I consider it appropriate that determinations of guilt and reviews of those determinations remain principally with the judiciary."
As I think you noted, Kristy MacDonald delivered a report requisitioned by government to keep Watson under wraps. So she is the poster girl that Adams refers to as one who delivers " an impartial judicial-level review ". No, sorry Amy that is not MacDonald's report. We know this. It is a review custom built for Wellington.
Adams also said "She had confidence in the system's ability to rectify miscarriages of justice".
This is the mother of all false statements. Thomas would never have escaped without pugilist Muldoon thumbing his nose at the earnest advice of bureaucrats to not release him, and bureaucrats have reigned supreme since, keeping Pora, Bain Watson and Lundy under lock and key for the maximum time.
But the jury system is unfit for purpose anyway. In this succession of murder trials, I can count at least nine juries that have been led by crooked prosecutors to guilty verdicts. 2 Thomas, 1 Tamihere, two Pora, one Bain, one Watson, and 2 Lundy.
How can this be OK? Only one Erebus during that time. Ha.Would aviation put up with that record? Yet that is a far harder trick to get right.
Well those are unfortunate comments by Amy Adams 'people involved in the panel have been advocates for the defence in many high profile cases which could lead to perceptions that the panel reviews may not be impartial,' she appears to be overlooking the fine work for the Crown by Kirsty McDonald, a long time Crown advocate in shutting down the Watson application for the Royal Prerogative of Mercy.
ReplyDeleteI think comments such as Adams are more the unfortunate because a Lawyer is presumably trained to be dispassionate and therefore the message is far more important than the messenger. If the message has any value critical to the conviction all else falls away, it's only secondly that the credibility, reliability, continuity of the message and its source becomes important. Even then the message or information remains of foremost critical importance. Simply a good or bad man or woman are equally able to deliver something of critical importance and neither can be dismissed or promoted simply because who they are or are perceived to be.
Again a good point of reference is Kirsty McDonald who in her report into Watson's application completely ignored connecting individual points in his favour collectively in a manner that was surely favourable to him in a sum total. I believe that was deliberate. But even if it wasn't it was still wrong and ought to have raised the concerns of the then Minister (Collins at the time from memory.) Of course Collins became deeply involved in a similar report by Ian Binnie on Bain because it could be argued it clearly did not favour the Crown. Conversely, the ignoring of continuity of facts that did not favour the Crown in the Watson case was of no concern to the Minister.
This is another ball game. A long played game that just may be becoming undone thanks ironically to the cases of both Dotcom and John Banks. In both those situations Crown officials from within Crown Law donned other hats to perform Crown functions of a neutral office when in fact having been involved in either the investigations or prosecutions of the men. Of course the Crown Law have argued that they can easily step between 2 roles or more without prejudicing credibility. Of course if Adams is fair and true to her own observations about advocates which might appear to raise perceptions of concern as it applies to defence Lawyers, then surely it is the same situation for Crown Lawyers - with one big and major difference.
It is the Crown Lawyers who make the recommendations of the cases that defence lawyers or advocates present to the 'system' and the later who compile them. Hardly fair in a modern world with apparently 'robust' methods of open scrutiny.
Nostalgia-NZ, I have quite a lot to say, and will add material. Your high quality forum seems a good testing ground for NZ judicial disasters, but the Lundy case is fortuitously placed with a pending appeal to effect change to systems.
ReplyDeleteChris Halkides started this thread, and he is bound to be professionally very cautious with endorsements. You may have found it but few of your readers will have.
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