Retard Ralph Taylor - the pedo-apologist.

The following are just a few of the occasions that retard Ralph has lied about the blood in the barrel. Now, if retard Ralph accepted the evidence that there was extensive amounts of blood found inside the rifle and moved his argument on I think that might circumvent the concern that somebody (Ralph)that continually lies about something (despite evidence countering his lies) has something to hide. The conclusion can only be that his apparent offence is that the blood in the barrel is seen by him as proving that Robin was a kiddie-fiddler and Ralph is over sensitive about that, as is Linz4me and Mike Stockdale. Now if they dealt with the facts instead of lying about them or denying them their argument would not be so badly undermined. We know that David was strip searched and no scratches were found on his chest, we know that Robin did have blood high pressure blood spatter on his right shoe that wasn't his own, we know that extensive blood was found inside the rifle barrel and that the Judge was told that it clearly was from the last shot fired. So if they didn't lie about all these things they might have some credibility, but to go on about such things as though they don't exist makes them look like kiddie fiddlers to me.

First: pg 3653,3654

If the case note records that, “Blood was found on the silencer, extensive smearing and traces of blood were also found inside the barrel, positive,” that’s what it’s saying here. Does that accord with the answer you gave Mr Mander in relation to the vacuum effect and hard contact wound?
A. Oh it does, it indicates that, I mean, there are a number of people who have been shot. It indicates that at least one of those suffered a relatively hard contact wound.

Then: pg 150 (Doyle)

Q. It involves strip-searching, swabs of intimate body parts, doesn’t it?
A. There are a number of tests, yes, all of those included.
Q. All of those are done?
A. Yes.

Later: pg3392 - 93 (Manlove)

A. This is the upper surface of the right shoe of, I think it's item 246, the shoes from Robin Bain. There is some yellow circles on there, we do that to make it a little bit more apparent where there is potentially some scientific findings. On the front of the upper here there were three distinct bloodspots of airborne origin detected, whereas on the remainder of the shoe there were a number of red stains with the appearance of blood but which we couldn’t confirm were blood.

Ralph's ongoing denials in face of the evidence.


'project_hr wrote:

"so prove your own credibility, and take the wager. You, or anyone else - Nos has opened it up."


I don't have to prove my credibilty and I don't partipate in wagers especially on that Blog.Much prefer sticking to the evidence like for example " no high impact blood spatter " on Robin's shoes was identified or anyalysed. Much like the myth of Robin's DNA anaylsed in the barrel presented and cross examined in the retrial.
Might be a good idea project if for once tried the same and focused on the problem of the nonexistent forensic evidence against Robin.

Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 12:57 pm, Wed 3 Nov #29010

We are talking about first hand observation evidence based as opposed to theory.This is empricism the core and basis of scientific understanding and knowledge.Scenesetter may cite this paper by karger et al,1996.
But the key matter is that as you rightly observe the blood in the barrel is just that ,an assumption nothing more (assumption dict def;-"a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof".Or pure conjecture(an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information)
Now were swabs,samples taken from inside the barrel,anaylsed and found to be matching Robin's blood group or DNA profile.Were these findings (if they ever happened and I believe they didn't) presented in court by a Forensic specialist etc?That to me is the key issue which Nos has been evading all along.
Wasn't scenesetter the idenity of someone else that we are very familiar with?

Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 11:10 am, Sat 30 Oct #28761

ESR scientists Dr Doug Elliot and Hentschell found no blood on Robin's socks or shoes.Fact.Also Dr Manlove could not be certain if there was in fact blood there.Another fact.Facts,Facts Facts!

Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 10:14 am, Sun 31 Oct #28784

But who said there was blood in the barrel ss? I've searched high and low,googled etc and the only place it is mentioned is in the Defences summing up. Those who have a trial transcript might be able to quote but as far as am aware no Forensic scientist examined and found blood in the barrel.I feel the Defence were making an assumption on the basis of their suicide scenario.

Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 7:55 pm, Thu 28 Oct #28730

If you read the defences summing up they said a lot of things that were in my opinion highly contentious including ,of course ,the trashing and blackening of Robin's good name ( largely from witnesses who barely knew him) vs the angelic innocent David,that Weir had planted the lens,the stupid suicide scenario and on it goes.I recall The Defence at one stage stated Robin was on medication but where was the evidence for that?Did Robin's GP state that ?The said a lot of things like that including as we know the bit about the blood in the barrel
ONCE MORE.WHICH FIREARMS OR FORENSIC EXPERT TESTIFIED TO THAT AND WHEN WERE THE LAB TEST RESULTS PRESENTED IN COURT SHOWING EITHER ROBINS BLOOD GROUP OR DNA PROFILE.?

Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 1:27 pm, Fri 29 Oct #28741


QPeter Ross Victorian Based Forensic scientist gave evidence in the the last days of the trial specifically to prresent his hypothesis that Laniet was possibly shot using a pillow or some similar kind of fabric.That alleged fabric was never located ( now,how convenient for the defence).He also gave evidence that he heard a dead patient one time making exhaling noises.
As far as I am aware Mr Ross never examined the interior of the silencer or rifle barrel and subjected them to sample or swab tests for Blood group anaylsis or DNA profiling. ESR scientists never did this as far as am aware.Thus it is reasonable to conlude that the so called" blood in the barrel " is like Mr Ross's "pillow or fabric" theory,a hypothesis.No less, no more.!No BS here pro.
Oh Project,you will see in the link how the Defence's stellar witness Dean Cottle failed to turn up, called at the eleventh hour.Again, how convenient.

http://tvnz.co.nz/david-bain-news/laniet-bain-shot-through-o
bject-2757654

Edited by jeeves-50 at 10:03 am, Fri 5 Nov

Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 10:00 am, Fri 5 Nov #29256'