Sunday, April 15, 2012

That hate-siters: the biggest fail so far.

People will recall when the hate-siters were celebrating a petition that was going to reach 20,000 signatures against David Bain being paid compensation, also the congratulatory forecasts that David wouldn't even 'dare' apply for compensation. At around the same time was the praising of an anticipated book by former Detective Weir who knew 'everything' about the case and taunts mocking Joe Karam's failure to write a promised book on the successful retrial.

The idea of the petition has come and gone without any progress being made, David has indeed applied for compensation, Weir's book has been put off so many times, apparently for legal reasons, that we may never see it. While of course 'Trial by Ambush' Karam's book has been published. In the 3 months or so since publication not one issue has been made about the contents of the book, not one commentator or reviewer has been able to sustain any negative aspect about the validity of the book. Yes, there have been some comment but only to do with writing style, and the way the book moves forward and back in time. As to the former, the writing style has been criticised as scholarly or reading like a lawyer was the author. That observation in itself, and I believe Paul Holmes was critical of it in that way and how long it took to write, totally overlooks that Karam is seeped in 'legalise' and has been for nearly two decades. He should in fact be considered for an Honorary Doctorate in Law such has been his contribution to Justice in NZ. Perhaps Joe might have been able to adopt a more casual over the fence type voice but that wouldn't have altered the most important thing - the content of the book that showed David as innocent and Robin as guilty.

I wasn't distracted by the choice of voice at all and any critic would not the subject matter, a familicide,  hardly be discussion at the breakfast table stuff in anyway. As for the time it took to produce, more nonsense, when considering the in depth information canvassed, also the likely reason for the need to transverse forward and  backing with time. Overall, there will likely be other books written about the Bain tragedy and they will without exception use 'Trial by Ambush' as main source material because apart from the extensive trial transcript there is no more comprehensive source of information about the Every Street massacre. But my interest was first to read the book, perhaps looking for flaws in the narrative, but to then wait for criticism as to its factual authenticity and there is none, nor do I think there will ever be that stands scrutiny.

Looking into the hate-sites recently, and this just shows how backward they and their members are, discussion still centres around whether or not David was stripped searched the day of the murders. Yes, approaching 16 years after the fact, and with no evidence to the contrary from the trial transcript, the hate-siters cannot accept that David was strip searched and no scratches were found on his chest - one of aged claims to prove his guilt. I wonder whey it is necessary to disregard the truth when forming an opinion, possibly only because the truth in the Bain case is that a innocent man was falsely imprisoned and when freed became the target of hate-groups. It's boggling to some degree that anybody can hold a view that his not sustained by fact, and then publicly vilify somebody using lies. It's shameful that it happens in NZ, not that people have opinions but that some people (a small few thankfully) use lies and to persecute a victim of injustice. That view is compounded because the hate-siters have had access to the book for 3 months, but none can challenge the truth of it - yet that doesn't turn them away from their cause. I do admit however that it is clear the book has rattled them, right up to their demi-god Martin Van Beynan who is exposed now for what he didn't report to the public in being at the trial 'for almost every minute.'

Before closing, I repeat that I believe ex DC Weir could write a very interesting book on the Bain case. Particularly if he chose to be up front about the truth of the investigation, why Robin wasn't investigated, what happened to Laniet's diary, who might have been seen to have had things to lose if Robin was investigated or the full extent of Laniet's clients were known. The point really now is that is the real hidden story, but not so hidden that it is unknown, but more to the extent that it hasn't been written frankly about by one, or some of those involved. It seems to me that there was a lot of embarrassment saved some members of the Dunedin police by the fact Robin was investigated, and if that's not the case - let's here the truth, before the Bain case drifts off into the land where Arthur Thomas found himself and where his ex wife Vivian arrived and was unable to leave right to the point of her recent death.

As for the title of 'Trial by Ambush,' although it might not have been intended, clearly the 'ambush' of the truth on the unsuspecting police and Crown in the retrial was unprecedented in NZ history. We discovered a veritable horror story, just one example now: the question to David 'can you explain how your fingerprints were found on the rifle in blood.' When the truth is they were never found in blood and an innocent man was being asked to explain something that hadn't happened, only to be criticised for it at a trial where false evidence of blood was offered. That's the story I want to know now, why ex DS Doyle allowed the inquiry to be steered away from Robin completely while David was beset with false evidence and asked to disprove it. The book answered a lot of my question, and while I know there has been a lot evidence suppressed about Robin, which I imagine David, has not sought to have revealed - but I would still like to know if Robin was subjected to the same invasive tests, that were performed on his son, while Robin lay dead on the ground without underwear and what the results of those test were if taken.



9 comments:

  1. Oops, Kent has it wrong once again. He has spent much time pushing the point that politicians are defamed all the time and it is acceptable, and how this is a political case now.
    Oh dear, Judith Collins is now suing two other politicians because they too don't know boundaries.
    You see, Kent, it is all about boundaries, and respecting another person's right to conduct legal business without having lies told about them publicly, not whether you think this case is now political.

    It does seem, though, as if Kent has seen this now and has pulled his head in somewhat.

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  2. Yes. But his situation with the defamation was never political, perhaps he was confusing himself with the 'political party' he was going to start before his 'concert' tour took centre stage which has now also been forgotten about.

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  3. We know that, sadly Kent never has.
    One of his mantra's has been "If you go public you are fair game as with politics."
    What he fails to see is, the same must apply to him.
    Now to see that Judith Collins is suing others for defaming her, Kent may just understand that nobody is "fair game" when it comes to telling lies about them.

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  4. In the coverage over the last few days of Breivik, the Norwegian neo-fascist who killed 77 people, something seemed familiar. It was this:
    In a recent letter seen by the Norwegian newspaper VG, Breivik said: "The court case looks like it will be a circus ... it is an absolutely unique opportunity to explain the idea of (the manifesto) to the world."
    Ring any bells for you? I'm sure I've seen Kent, a similarly self-styled leader of misguided nincompoops, write something of the sort!

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    1. Yes I saw that, and Parker has written similar stuff many times which remains on his website, although, fortunately, his manifesto is to promote himself while undermining Justice and attacking anyone who he sees as opposing him in becoming an intellectual leader or politician of some sort rather than taking the horrible course Breivik chose. Breivik chose violence willingly, whereas Parker has never made a declaration against violence and could be argued to have perpetuated the hate and stalking of his followers. Certainly Parker has never spoken out against violence even when violent or potentially violent situations have been discussed or planned on his web sites or the associated forum of Annette Curran: Guilty. He never declared to his group that violence was not an option and I recall his co-accused Purkiss effectively threatening Joe Karam and David in a Sunday Star article. When it was apparent that his followers were stalking opponents and their families, Parker encourage by his silence. I recall Purkiss making the comment 'lets go get them.' There is also the more recent comment by Rodie of bombing Parliament. I hope someone has complained about that.

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  5. The truth will come out, mark my words and money will be paid. The haters will be exposed, esp their criminal records and the liars will burned by their words.

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    1. Tantalising by its brevity. Reminds me of the Dunedin 'artists' who drew the defamatory drawing for one of the hate-site administrators, and who from memory had earlier been accused of producing work that had elements of child porn included. The latter is a whole side that might yet be revealed more fully. I remember when one of their number revealed offences of that nature had been levelled against him and no one objected, rather by turn supported him by saying they can't have been true although no details were ever given to reach that conclusion. Of course we have the 2 publications by a site-administrator defending what Robin might have shown his daughter to do and dismissing the incest as happening 'years before' the familicide.

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  6. I remember reading a very disturbing account from JFRB where they were having a great giggle by implying some sort of physical relationship between a Juror and Karam. It went on for some days, with all the usuals howling at the moon - there was not one piece of evidence to support it, apart from a loose statment by M.V.B.
    I would pay to be in court when Kent Parker has to explain how, as administrator the site, he not only allowed such an obvious bunch of lies to be told, but took part himself, and allowed the comments to remain on the site for months, knowing they were far from the truth. How does any of that fit with his 'entitled opinion', and social responsibility?

    He is using the excuse he was hiding behind a private group, but the group wasn't private initially, and many joined before Kent placed his disclaimer, and therefore, it doesn't apply to them. Regardless of the privacy, he allowed 600 people to be exposed to something, he knew was a lie, and allowed it to be perpectuated many times over.

    I don't believe in the death penalty, but I'd glady watch KP hang from a rope for a few minutes - but then, I guess from his comments over the last few days, he already feels that noose tightening around his neck, judging from his recent panic.

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    1. I have noticed that he has taken to putting up "little known facts" that are pure falsehoods, then removing them after a day.

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