Why? Did someone say that in Papua New Guinea everyone molests children? I recall saying that, it would have been hard to keep the kids dressed in a Western fashion in the heat when their friends were not and that the housing was not likely to be the most private, I think if it is the same conversation that Centrepoint was brought up as an analogy, ecause you called someone Mr Potter, if that is the conversation to which you are alluding. Any way what is it in your reckoning that makes one a JFRBer, merely posting that Robin didn't commit suicide, is that sufficient? I do have to say that you seem to see paedophiles everywhere, if you are a 'professional' may I suggest that you heal youself before practicing on any one else. paedophiles seem to be your bogey man.
Edited by goldnkiwi at 3:56 pm, Wed 8 Sep
Quotegoldnkiwi (607 ) 3:51 pm, Wed 8 Sep #25982
and again,
Did someone say that in Papua New Guinea everyone molests children? I recall saying that
Then Stockdale, first not a paedophile apologist, followed by agreement he is,
And I am not a paedophile apologist either,project,and I am not a supporter of a multi murderer ,either.
Actually,pro,an apologist is someone who explains or defends something by reasoned argument,so I will accept that word,as it certainly relates to me.
Quotesupersleuth (0 ) 4:21 pm, Wed 8 Sep #25991
Then questioning that they're not paedophile apologists
Not pedeophile apologists ? There is no direct evidence of this from first hand accounts like David.Only second hand heresay.When did David state his father was a pedeophile?
Quotejeeves-50 (3 ) 3:07 pm, Wed 8 Sep #25971
There is a pattern emerging here folks, 3 of the same merry band, all hate-siters all offended that Robin is called a paedophile, then mitigation by them of the circumstances of his paedophilia. This follows the earlier post (recorded below) in which Stockdale 'explains' his views on what most people would consider paedophilia.
There were a few posts yesterday about the suppressed evidence,or evidence that the judge would not allow the jury to hear,if you like.
Now one witness said she recalled Arawa telling her about putting her finger in her vagina and that her father had shown her how to do do this.
Well,he may have.He may have shown her how to put her finger in her vagina.Some people take that to mean he put his finger in her vagina.
Karam said,in that debate with Laws,"That the fact of the matter is that it seems very clear now that Mr Robin Bain was molesting his other daughter".So he must take that view.
Look,the Bain children ran around naked in PNG.I daresay Robin Bain could have pointed to David Bain's penis and said that is called a penis.That does not mean he was molesting David.
I know that most of us find this behaviour strange.Maybe even all of us.But in PNG the Bain's were known for their strange behaviour as regards to sexual matters.
But that does not mean that anyone was molesting anyone.
Quotesupersleuth (0 ) 9:43 am, Sat 4 Sep #24897
There has long been a defensive attitude from the 'love Robin's' on the issue of incest, that often seemed to have been driven by something sinister, over the last few days, and yesterday in particular, it seems goldnkiwi, jeeves50 and Stockdale have lulled themselves into the belief that their views are generally held and therefore not offensive. They now present as apologists for paedophilia, persecutors in the name of paedophilia - a message for the few that signed their rotten petition, this cell, cult, are sick, sick people.
Thursday, September 9, 2010
Wednesday, September 8, 2010
nina_concertina...
nina_concertina, how does your garden grow?
nina, sweet nina, who was once almost a ballerina,
thank you for your kind observations
about your self pleasuring ways.
spot on, jolly good
keep up the good work.
Yours truely,
your old pal, nostros.
nina, sweet nina, who was once almost a ballerina,
thank you for your kind observations
about your self pleasuring ways.
spot on, jolly good
keep up the good work.
Yours truely,
your old pal, nostros.
Thankyou for your concern, by Goodnewsguy.
GNG fan said...
Dear GNG
I am concerned about the health risks of your job, and suggest you apply immediately for a special payment, on top of your wage from NOS. Goodness knows what lurks in the dribble of these people and there should be danger money included.
It's a bit worrying that your personal measurements are so well known. The group has taken it upon themselves to redefine existing mathematical standards. According to group leader, Vic, 3mm will now become .003mm. This has serious consequences for all males, who have skited about their 6 inches. From now on 6 inches or 152.4mm, will become .152mm or .006 of an inch. What this will do for the male psyche, is yet to be known, but it's not going to be pretty.
September 8, 2010 9:02 AM
As anticipated Nos turned down my request for a special payment. He said that he didn't want to rush things and that he suspected I was being lead astray by my inflated view of my own value. He reckons spys are a dime a dozen these days and I'll have to make do with cut lunches from now on as well. He's very generous in holding on to his own money, in fact you need a crowbar to lever a 50cent coin out his palm - I think it's glued on.
Yes, I'm well aware of great leader #2 redefining metric measurement. But despite his attempt to scale everything down to the size of his brain .003mm, I am happy to disclose there has been no effect on my personal measurements and in fact I have had 5 more marriage proposals from malpal overnight, claiming that she has found her relationship with great leader #2 most unfulfilling while also noting her relationship with campmother was even worse.
Dear GNG
I am concerned about the health risks of your job, and suggest you apply immediately for a special payment, on top of your wage from NOS. Goodness knows what lurks in the dribble of these people and there should be danger money included.
It's a bit worrying that your personal measurements are so well known. The group has taken it upon themselves to redefine existing mathematical standards. According to group leader, Vic, 3mm will now become .003mm. This has serious consequences for all males, who have skited about their 6 inches. From now on 6 inches or 152.4mm, will become .152mm or .006 of an inch. What this will do for the male psyche, is yet to be known, but it's not going to be pretty.
September 8, 2010 9:02 AM
As anticipated Nos turned down my request for a special payment. He said that he didn't want to rush things and that he suspected I was being lead astray by my inflated view of my own value. He reckons spys are a dime a dozen these days and I'll have to make do with cut lunches from now on as well. He's very generous in holding on to his own money, in fact you need a crowbar to lever a 50cent coin out his palm - I think it's glued on.
Yes, I'm well aware of great leader #2 redefining metric measurement. But despite his attempt to scale everything down to the size of his brain .003mm, I am happy to disclose there has been no effect on my personal measurements and in fact I have had 5 more marriage proposals from malpal overnight, claiming that she has found her relationship with great leader #2 most unfulfilling while also noting her relationship with campmother was even worse.
Tuesday, September 7, 2010
It's official folks..posted by GNG from the Auckland High Court
When goobergolf hits the High Court they're going to search her bags for tacks. No judge in NZ could be asked to preside over a trial in which goobergold was appearing if she was fully armed with tacks and spitting them everywhere - think of the damage to wood paneling and the Judge's wig.
Also, as I understand, and much to her relief, goober will be allowed to take with her the specially decorated 'night' bowl which she is also permitted to share with kalpal and nina_s. Won't that be fun.
I'd like to take this opportunity to send a message to melpal that I have received all those marriage proposals but I can't make out the fine detail because of the dribble and snot over them. And thankyou very much for reminding me again of the measurements of my personal details and what you like to do with them.
Yours truly,
Goodnewsguy
Also, as I understand, and much to her relief, goober will be allowed to take with her the specially decorated 'night' bowl which she is also permitted to share with kalpal and nina_s. Won't that be fun.
I'd like to take this opportunity to send a message to melpal that I have received all those marriage proposals but I can't make out the fine detail because of the dribble and snot over them. And thankyou very much for reminding me again of the measurements of my personal details and what you like to do with them.
Yours truly,
Goodnewsguy
Robin Bain, deceased by suicide.
Anonymous said...
There will be a cost, as those who have taken part, are slowly learning.
At first they were open about whose blood they wanted. Now they try to hide behind the banner of seeking justice for father.
How much of what they say and do, mentions the great things Robin did? I believe he was responsible for the deaths of his family, but even I can see the man had some wonderful attributes, especially in the early days.
These people have become consumed by their hatred, which now has nothing to do with David Bain, but more to do with the inability to admit, they were wrong.
September 7, 2010 9:03 AM
I find it hard to reconcile Robin, the killer, with anything he did that might have been good earlier in his life, in fact I find it hard to look beyond his descent into madness and not see it as something triggered by his sexual activities with his own children. I think he broke taboos and they in turn broke him. There seems a wider and greater message spelt from his death, a reminder to live your life for the good, not for your own pleasure. There is much made of the reliability of the hearsay evidence surrounding Robin, but evidence can't be manufactured nor sanitised, it must be the spoken word, circumstances faithfully recorded to allow to be tested against ones own experiences, ones own objectivity. There were many things unresolved in the Crown case, perhaps high on the list, at least for me was the proposal that Laniet had been telling her 'stories' in anticipation that years later they would provide an alibi for her brother, who by the Crown's version, was her killer. It doesn't wash. Nor that David would need to somehow emphasise that he delivered the papers, when the proof of their delivery was that they arrived in mailboxes that morning. The extraordinary things the Crown proposed a Jury should believe conflicted with one another so sharply they made no sense - giving perhaps the greatest reason why David should never have been charged. Just as David's efforts at subterfuge made no sense, he denied knowing of any incest, was upset that his family were killed in their beds, he admitted the rifle was his and that only he had a trigger guard key to it - the efforts of someone trying to escape blame, not by a long distance.
I have no reservations that the truth about the Bain case is the truth we saw revealed, an incestuous father driven crazy by eating forbidden fruit, which was for him, and his family unfortunately, leaching a poison he could surely see would destroy him should he bite into it. Whatever Margaret may have thought of the situation in the beginning she knew in the end that she must preserve her children. Much has been made of her, but I imagine her heart was broken and she saw a fresh chance for her children if she kept them near, and away from Robin.
One of the stupidest claims from Robin's fans is why would Robin have 'framed' David for the murder. In fact he didn't, ignorance, and rushed, inexperienced policing did the 'framing.' Robin left all the clues in the world, a motive, a recent history of depression and displays of behaviour that worried his work colleagues, fresh blood on his folded trousers in the van, blood and human hair in the van, spent cartridges in the van and one live shell, no porridge prepared for breakfast, a full bladder, the soot mark on his temple where he had rested the rifle, an uninterrupted flow of spray falling from the curtain and across the carpet, even his blood inside the rifle and silencer and of course a last few words, on his beloved computer and set out in the strict grammar and page set out of which he was so fond.
There will be a cost, as those who have taken part, are slowly learning.
At first they were open about whose blood they wanted. Now they try to hide behind the banner of seeking justice for father.
How much of what they say and do, mentions the great things Robin did? I believe he was responsible for the deaths of his family, but even I can see the man had some wonderful attributes, especially in the early days.
These people have become consumed by their hatred, which now has nothing to do with David Bain, but more to do with the inability to admit, they were wrong.
September 7, 2010 9:03 AM
I find it hard to reconcile Robin, the killer, with anything he did that might have been good earlier in his life, in fact I find it hard to look beyond his descent into madness and not see it as something triggered by his sexual activities with his own children. I think he broke taboos and they in turn broke him. There seems a wider and greater message spelt from his death, a reminder to live your life for the good, not for your own pleasure. There is much made of the reliability of the hearsay evidence surrounding Robin, but evidence can't be manufactured nor sanitised, it must be the spoken word, circumstances faithfully recorded to allow to be tested against ones own experiences, ones own objectivity. There were many things unresolved in the Crown case, perhaps high on the list, at least for me was the proposal that Laniet had been telling her 'stories' in anticipation that years later they would provide an alibi for her brother, who by the Crown's version, was her killer. It doesn't wash. Nor that David would need to somehow emphasise that he delivered the papers, when the proof of their delivery was that they arrived in mailboxes that morning. The extraordinary things the Crown proposed a Jury should believe conflicted with one another so sharply they made no sense - giving perhaps the greatest reason why David should never have been charged. Just as David's efforts at subterfuge made no sense, he denied knowing of any incest, was upset that his family were killed in their beds, he admitted the rifle was his and that only he had a trigger guard key to it - the efforts of someone trying to escape blame, not by a long distance.
I have no reservations that the truth about the Bain case is the truth we saw revealed, an incestuous father driven crazy by eating forbidden fruit, which was for him, and his family unfortunately, leaching a poison he could surely see would destroy him should he bite into it. Whatever Margaret may have thought of the situation in the beginning she knew in the end that she must preserve her children. Much has been made of her, but I imagine her heart was broken and she saw a fresh chance for her children if she kept them near, and away from Robin.
One of the stupidest claims from Robin's fans is why would Robin have 'framed' David for the murder. In fact he didn't, ignorance, and rushed, inexperienced policing did the 'framing.' Robin left all the clues in the world, a motive, a recent history of depression and displays of behaviour that worried his work colleagues, fresh blood on his folded trousers in the van, blood and human hair in the van, spent cartridges in the van and one live shell, no porridge prepared for breakfast, a full bladder, the soot mark on his temple where he had rested the rifle, an uninterrupted flow of spray falling from the curtain and across the carpet, even his blood inside the rifle and silencer and of course a last few words, on his beloved computer and set out in the strict grammar and page set out of which he was so fond.
Monday, September 6, 2010
Entitlement, what price?
In the beginning there was no price to be paid for the entitlement of defaming David Bain, the man was 'fair' game, someone to kick when fallen, to be gloated over in his misfortune. People, thought that they were entitled to do that, to forget normal social protocols, to forget checks and measures that make men and women civilised and bound by law and justice. Everyone apparently, had the right to be swept along by bloodful lust, intoxicated with evil and confirm blame at short notice or on a turn of phrase. An opportunity prevailed to watch, even through a misted lens, a hanging, the dissection of a family's life and death, an invitation to be expert upon all that which constitutes the lives of others, despite, not even being expert upon our own. There is a human cost for that, and we are yet to be able to measure the price.
Letter to the Minister:
My dear friends from the hate-sites, stalkers and harassers et al.
What is this about? Are the chickens coming home to roost? Is it 'very' luckytrader or something else, jury stalking perhaps?
On behalf of Hon Simon Power, thank you for your email. Your correspondence has been noted, and you will receive a response at our earliest convenience.
Please note that although email increases the speed of delivery, it may not be possible to provide you with the rapid response users of email may anticipate. We will endeavour to respond to you as soon as possible.
Kind regards
Office of Hon Simon Power
What is this about? Are the chickens coming home to roost? Is it 'very' luckytrader or something else, jury stalking perhaps?
On behalf of Hon Simon Power, thank you for your email. Your correspondence has been noted, and you will receive a response at our earliest convenience.
Please note that although email increases the speed of delivery, it may not be possible to provide you with the rapid response users of email may anticipate. We will endeavour to respond to you as soon as possible.
Kind regards
Office of Hon Simon Power
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