Scott Watson - unfortunate bad news?

The Herald on Sunday has reported that it is understood that Scott's plea for clemency 'must' fail because Kirsty McDonald investigation has uncovered no 'new' evidence. Rodney Hide spoke to both the Herald on Sunday and on Radio Live about his disappointment that Simon Power hadn't acted on what is recognised as a travesty of Justice. Plaudits to Rodney for that.

The idea that failed or disproved evidence doesn't constitute new evidence seems to be an aberration that a conviction can still 'hold' when there was so much that Jury couldn't consider because it wasn't before them, such as the fact that witnesses recanted on evidence that was persuasive and offered under inducement, and so many leads were dismissed without investigation.  False or recanted evidence that on 1st consideration fully imposed a troubling picture of Scott Watson, a false picture that remains and ought to have been erased either by a pardon or by a re-trial where the truth would be told and untruthful evidence excluded.

Then for students of the elements of a miscarriage of Justice is the more publicly recognised knowledge now that there was a deliberate campaign to blacken the name of Scott Watson by investigators long before the trial and a exclusion of evidence or investigation into leads that might have steered the investigation away from Rob Pope's target - Scott Watson. And that campaign is borne out now that more of the case is public and understood by the fact that highly prejudicial evidence offered by prison inmates in exchange for deals with the police has failed the test of time and credibility.

I hope these portents are wrong, just as I know the Royal Prerogative for Mercy is most often ineffectual and wrong and misplaces the course of Justice from the Courts into hands of transient politicians who might seen as concerned with the winds of what public reactions or favour might bear upon any decision they make. Fairness and Justice cannot rely on 'gut instinct' policing that utilises propaganda, excludes evidence, recanted evidence, laid out to be picked over at length by a lawyer who can see nothing new in failed evidence.

If the worst prospect is realised I hope Greg King will seek a review of the Minister's decision, all guns blazing.  If the recanted evidence was of no value then why was it ever called and who but the Jury could have determined the weight originally given to it in their deliberations. It was the icing on the cake, the ultimate prejudicial arrow to allow a jury to be disgusted and convict despite other evidence harbouring doubt falling short.

kulkkubelle goes wild, chokes on hypocrisy.

sweetie9 wrote:

Crawl back under your rock.
 Oh my God, the guy has been exonerated...I just hope if one of your family members is falsely accused and convicted of something that whiners on the other side of the world don't call them a " killer"

Quotekulkkulbelle (426 ) 4:19 pm, Thu 27 Oct #22

Deb Coates is morally outraged that someone should object to one of the 'Memphsis 3' being allowed into New Zealand. Fair enough on the surface. But isn't Kulkkulbelle, the previously banned ' Balisal' who renamed herself after a Kulkul bell as found in Balinese Temples. Why yes she is, and perhaps suffering from ringing in her ears that prevents her from recalling that she is a hate-site supporter that went a step further than any other hate-site supporter in New Zealand when she revealed having a copy of the autopsy report of one of the Bain victims which, according to kooky, proved that the victim had never been pregnant and their for gave lie to claims by the defence and its witnesses. Astoundingly enough, she was the only person who had such a report - even the pathologist himself didn't have it. But she is going to produce it, yes indeed, it's been coming on a slow boat from China for over 3 years now - trust her it is!

She, the wholesome soul, was also going to bankroll the defamation charges defences of Parker and Purkiss. The cheque is in the mail. Yes it is, kooky said it, so it must be - even ringing in one ears couldn't prevent that from being another truth from the veritable, holier than thou matriarch of TM, the self-appointed annoiter of all things good and fair.

But hold on, is claiming to have something which you never produce but use at length in your efforts to persecute somebody who has been 'exonerated' from a crime, found blameless - persecution? Why yes it is. And in order to appear 'enlightened' about another case of which a prominent nzer has taken an interest she defies anybody to object against the rights of somebody 'falsely accused and convicted.' But she did that herself, silly sausage - all that ringing in her ears must be upsetting her recall. Yes she did it herself and is unable to note that the Memphis 3 remain convicted in part for the authorities to avoid paying them out compensation. Compensation, yes that's right. Old Kooky is an expert on compensation as well, a signatory against compensation of somebody she knows is guilty despite them being found innocent by a jury in record time. Found innocent and therefore falsely imprisoned to that point, which is something else she knows is wrong because she of course has a pathologists report that will be arriving some time soon.

So what do you call somebody who lies in order to influence public opinion against an innocent man? I think you call them a persecutor. And why does somebody lie in order to have themselves believed, it is because they hate themselves, jealousy, an opportunity to play God over the life of a free man? You decide.

Which brings another question. Why does the spiritually cleansed bell person call out to those they imagine wicked in someway, for doing exactly what the cleansed person themselves have done and do in the few lucid moments when the bells subside and before their anger consumes them again. I believe they call out and point and mock, throw proverbial stones at that which they know is evil inside themselves.

Peter Jackson, like Joe Karam, Pat Booth, Jim Sprott and Chris Birt is motivated by defeating injustice he witnesses and which he is unable to turn away from. Though kookybell might applaud him she cannot hide that she is the instrument of injustice and the very example of what these good men find devastates them, deliberate, liberal, misuse of the truth and deceit.

One good thing that kooky unwittingly underlines is the mediocrity of desire for the truth of those such as kooky and her twisted sister buddies. Peter is not maligned in any meaningful way for a case of injustice he champions and which generally there is not a lot understood about by the average nzer, whereas another case many didn't understand, apart from sensationalised headlines and mistruths by kooky and her cohorts, both the falsely imprisoned and his champion for the truth have on dark days been maligned and persecuted to a far greater depth that the trivial comments queen kooky finds offensive.

The hate-sites: the end is nigh.

After over two years since cyber-attacks, stalking and harassment was commenced on line by Annette Curran (aka golfergold) of Kapiti Coast and Glenda OBrien (aka kalnovitch, laddiefatcat) of Dunedin and others such as Christine Williams (aka msspw, millie) dustproof and nina-s they are all but routed. While none of these people have been yet brought to Court, the files against their on-line activities and law-breaking are complete and formulated into a cognitive package that might yet be used against them or other parties for a variety of issues.

Kent Parker and Vic Purkiss who jumped on the bandwagon, with those mentioned above and others, are now crippled in a legal battle of which they have no prospect of winning. Parker has made a damning admission against himself in sworn papers that's likely to have done as much harm to him as anything else that could have been brought against him to prove his role as a publisher and defamer, and more succinctly as a hate-siter and sicko. All of this is contained in the recent  Judgement which he at first admitted was a defeat, and over time (how predictable) preached of how it was an 'opportunity' to try the Bain case again. Oh well, in kent's case once an idiot always an idiot. Each morning when he and Vic wake they will have the prospect of their own ruin churning in their stomachs, ruin that they sought to set upon others - free men and women alike with the right to live peacefully in this land without the attentions of a rabid mob. If you read this Kent, remember your snickering comments about my family and understand at least now the strength that grew in me when your cast your sick eyes and attention over my wife and children.

Changes have at last occurred in cyber-space here in New Zealand. The biggest site Trade Me now specifies that users must not harass or defame others on their boards. While it remains to be seen if live publishing online can ultimately be contained as lawful, I recognise the effort made to ensure that the risks are actively reduced - a substantial step in the right direction. All things have a starting point and one was obviously my letter to TM almost 2 years ago pointing out that their site was being populated by waves of hate-siters whose tools were lying, defamation and threats. If TM had been less like a slow maneuvering vessel they would have most likely avoided the litigation that was commenced against them about 6 months later and which continues on - probably inevitably to some sort of settlement between them and the plaintiff Joe Karam.

There has been an increased appreciation that online publishing isn't by any stretch of the imagination 'a chat in the pub.' Also, there is a sharp awareness between all online publishers that there protocols are recognised as being no different from the print media and with the same restraints. There is recognition by precedent before the Courts that nzers can be harassed on line and can take that to the Courts for relief without apparent need for massive law changes, but rather simply the Judicial appreciation that the written word, whether on a computer screen on a published newspaper, is not diminished one from the other - but that they, and their impact is one and the same, screen or printed page.

Perhaps also there grows an awareness of the social change that cyberspace first brought which seemed to have no limits or boundaries to the recognition that there were always limits and boundaries, and that people would invariably learn that a hot pool discovered on a trip into the bush in Rotorua didn't need to have a sign, erected by the Council, to warn of the dangers. Because the dangers were clear and present to anyone of experience and common sense. Also the fears that the anxious online users held that they might be restrained by not being able to 'speak their minds' or engage in snooping and prying into the lives of others,  by some measure of insanity or social deviance, they thought they 'owned' because of a superior position they felt to hold over others not 'as good as them,' or deficient in some compared to the 'elite' defamers and stalkers. And for the more socially well-adjusted, the opportunity to see some measure of decorum and restraint arrive on message boards that might be expected by a mature and civilised society looking to progress itself with new social mediums.

I chose the title above for the obvious reasons that Parker, Purkiss, Curran and others hate-site owners have fallen over into redundancy to become an odd fixture in the recent past. A past where individuals that might otherwise have been socially moderate became monsters to an all consuming hate, sated by a false power they felt was their 'destiny' or 'right' to interfere mercilessly into the lives of not only those they considered their enemies but also the families, children and friends of those as well. The first individual, in this now expiring saga, was Annette Curran, quickly to be joined by Glenda OBrien, nina_s and others. I additionally chose the title because these hateful people and their campaigns inadvertently gave something good to nzers. They gave the opportunity for nzers to learn and see that there is a way out from being stalked and harassed in cyberspace and that the Courts can help them. This could now be seen as a blue print in the future for those that might choose cyber-space to bully, threaten or commence hate-campaigns to be stopped quickly and efficiently. I say that being mindful of the nz teenagers being bullied on line that featured on Close Up this week.

More pages yet to write and investigate on this subject, particularly the links that fed and used the hate-sites that now lie expired, but an interim report on substantial progress for the benefit of the majority.

Aaron Fordon recaptured, no need to breathe a sigh of relief.

George Wilder escaped, went over the wall more than once and hid in the bush for Howard Morrison to sing about a wild colonial boy.  So too, Dean Wickliffe, the kid who ran the railway lines to find his life, twice broke free of the Paremoremo prison from where no one had escaped before to patch together an unsettled life.
So for the escapers all 3 a salute, for showing adventure into the night and risk - to find the dream of a life that might be less severe, for rebelling that impotent man, bereft of ideas, compassion or care should lock others in cages where death, hopelessnes and misery abounds. So escape ye yet for the enlightened time where cold stone no longer cushions you but love instead.

Is Kent Parker giving Trade Me help that it doesn't want?

Originally Kent Parker and his since departed cohorts believed that Trade Me was about to fight their defamation battle for them. They were overjoyed with the fact such was the depth of their delusions. When it finally sunk in that Trade Me's interests were it's own and TM had no ambition to shelter members of hate-sites from their liabilities, in fact the site shed them in large numbers from it's own message boards, Parker and co began a number of initiatives for help which have ultimately led to the most recent which appears to be sausage sizzles to save the damned. An event I suspect which will be about as popular as Melanie White's graveside vigil which nobody but herself attended.

But although he doesn't realise it, and may not even realise that damage he has done to himself, it is within the Court system and the pleadings of Parker and Purkiss, that the men undeniably help Joe Karam with his case both against the errant twins of spin but also TM. The kind of help TM don't need. Parker has admitted in his pleadings the obvious, that he had editorial control over what appeared on his Website. Parker admits under oath the ability to remove offensive or defamatory material from his website so it follows recognition of the responsibility for the same of TM. Parker and TM therefore cannot deny  the responsibility of the defamatory or offensive material on their own websites that they had the power to remove. Remote that it may be that TM would agree with Parker's submissions to the Court, because it is not in their interest to do so, it remains that the Court has already accepted the concessions of Parker - that he owned and controlled the website (as TM own their own message board,) that he had the power to delete material (as TM also share the power to remove material, indeed posters,) that membership was restricted (the same as TM.)

Parker has for all intents and purposes admitted that which TM seek to deny, the power of control over their own boards. I've written before that although TM have sought to indemnify themselves with a set of rules it would be unprecedented if any publisher were not held responsible for what they publish, despite who may have written, or re-published any particular material. Para [46] in the recently released Judgement of Associate Judge Sargisson says 'Materially, the first defendant (Parker) appears to accept that his acts or omissions may constitute publication. He deposes at paragraph 4 of his affidavit of 3 March 2011:

With respect to the application to strike out the first action against me, while I had the technical ability to remove other people's post there was no moral or legal right...

The Judge goes on to say that the plaintiffs (Karam's) claim of publication is not clearly untenable and that it is a question for a Jury to determine whether or not Parker was the publisher of the posts of others. Therein, is also sunk Trade Me who possibly have even less arguments against being a publisher than Parker. Good work Kent, I'm sure Joe is very happy with you for cutting to the chase and admitting the obvious. The fact that Parker chose to swear no legal or moral was in fact a defence has allowed both the Court and any prospective Jury the opportunity to judge what legal or moral right was in force that allowed Karam, or any other member of the public, to have their character and reputation measured by a bunch of misinformed misfits that belonged to a hate-site where they published defamatory material which was also published on NZ's largest message board site, Trade Me. Own goal Kenty, shot of the century by a complete moron!

While Kent and Vic Purkiss calculate how many sausages must be cooked the administrators of Trade Me lurch closer toward a settlement with Joe Karam thanks to the good work of Kent. While the owners surely ask how could it be that TM administrators were so thick to not realise that the traditions and liabilities of print media are not distinguished by words on a written page compared to script appearing on a computer screen. So we live and learn, even Kent....eventually.

All of the 18 people identified by Joe Karam in his pleadings as having defamed him, who published on  both on TM and the hate-sites have spread the liability, as Parker and Purkiss have inadvertently admitted in their sworn affidavits to the Auckland High Court.

McVicar, Garrett, Rodney Hide and Simon Power kicked to touch.

Well, not exactly. But their impetus that led them into Parliament on the back of the fraudulent Three Strikes legislation is exposed as irrelevant. So is revealed, that single issues that capture public fear or animosity can and do set the political landscape beyond their single point. With the 3 Strikes legislation NZ was given some ACT MPs who before their Parliamentary terms had finished would be exposed for fraudulent behaviour. Instead of being given a good law that delivered on its promise the public were sold a duck, along with that they got an MP that would need to resign and another that would have to repay misused funds that when asked of that MP, Hide, if it was good for the public that he had chosen to take his then girlfriend on an overseas publicly funded trip, responded 'that it was good for him.' Yes indeed. It was also good for David Garret whose carefully researched proposed 3 Strike Legislation, along with the backing of McVicar and the nod of Simon Power, and popularised hoardings elevated Act into power and an 'easy' ticket for Power's party to ensure they had a compliant coalition partner if things got tight on numbers.

For McVicar it must have been the realisation of the political power he craved, never realising that his decision to remain silent that the author of the legislation Garret was already on his second strike, which Hide and McVicar ruled as not necessary to tell the public, would be exactly that which came to come back to bite them on the arse. Additionally, it remains evident that most likely it led to the decision of Power to end his Parliamentary career, or perhaps he was encouraged by the impact it would be seen to have made on the credibility of the Government. Of course Power's departure was not before he repealed laws that were working and made serious attacks on the freedoms of NZers. His intention was to remove rights in favour of an all powerful state, an elite. When he finally left office he spoke about the possible need for independent inquiries into the injustices that feature in our legal system and which he said were 'deeply troubling' or something similar. Perhaps, not realising or being too arrogant to care that when he was intent on changing laws left, right and centre it was within his power, indeed his obligation as a law maker, to put right things that were 'deeply troubling' within the Justice system.

However, for the bare bones of the once lauded 3 Strikes laws we now see it as a failure, a fraudulent failure. Kim Workman has spoken out about the actual progress of  the Law and quoted that anybody that believes that it is a success should speak to the Government's Chief Science Adviser, or the Ministry of Justice. The core group to which the legislation was meant to impact upon showed a little over 25% had even heard of the legislation, and none understood how it actually worked. Hello, that's a zero impact. Blinking brilliant.

But fear not, Crusher Collins, whose crusher legislation has so far failed to crush a single car, was able to 'confirm' that 'it does work, because of the comments that police and Corrections are getting from prisoners' she said. Hello again, the departments own statistics don't confirm that it works, the Chief Science Advisor, but Crusher knows that it does because anonymous people told her that it does by quoting, yes, the crims themselves who don't understand it. Well folks can be comforted by that when the Minister of Police who is down on crims, tough on them, uses anecdotal evidence apparently supplied by the most credible source of all, the crims themselves. Life must be tough for a bullshitting politician, particularly those that chose to deceive and frighten the public to ensure they're elected. But what of honesty? What of the critical need to unite and empower the people with truth? We now see truth and compassion lose to political expedience and lust for power.

Though perhaps the information that we see now as the real truth is something which can be learnt from, something proverbial about which truth shall endure, and liars who corrupt it are no better than those they lie about to condemn,  steal from or influence. As this Parliament rises for the elections not less that a handful of liars have been removed, or decided to leave, before the people judge them of their honesty while the dear Minister of Police supports her case with the veracity of criminals as McVicar and Hide limp away.

Kent Parker - desperate or just a dumbo. You decide.

The latest offering from the great leader is titled:
The People vs Joe Karam.

Taken no doubt from the American use of laying prosecutions, being The People, against some named individual. Of course this would put in the mind of any reader that it was Karam facing charges rather than Parker and Purkiss and that the charges were laid on behalf on the Crown (as it is in NZ.) This, much like all the subterfuge of the truth applied by Parker, is an intention to mislead in what essentially was a representation by Parker for financial help from those he misleads or might potentially mislead.

The actual name of the case for which he seeks 'financial help' that 'requires the services of a legal defamation expert' is in fact Between, Joseph Francis Karam Plaintiff and Kent Parker First Defendant and Vic Purkiss Second Defendant. Parker goes onto say that Karam has sued 18 members of the self-claimed 'Justice for Robin Bain Group' for 'defamation on the basis that 18 members of the general public have said in online discussion boards about the Bain Case.' He goes on to describe the 18 as students, housewives, small business owners, workers, teachers, retirees, 'people like you and me.'

Of course the truth is that Karam hasn't sued 18 people as the record and pleadings show. He's sued Parker and Purkiss for allegedly defamatory things they've said about him and for publishing the allegedly defamatory comments of 16 others. Parker clearly has some aversion to the truth, or perhaps it is simply that he is so deranged that he doesn't know fact from fiction - so we'll take the Court documents, which he has patently shown by his own pleadings that he can't follow, as the undeniable truth.

But even within his lies there are other lies. The 'people like you and me' are in fact not general members of society, they are people who decided to join a hate site and embark on a campaign that included threatening behaviour, stalking and harassing members of the public for a cause that was both unlawful and not specific to them in any personal way. In short they were a bunch of nutters given the opportunity by Parker and Purkiss to give full reign to their hate and righteous indignation. Among them certainly were housewives, retirees, students and so forth but they distinguish themselves as different than the mass of the population because they were 'enlignened' by the truth and in some case 'holiness' to maraud into the lives of other nzers, many of whom had done nothing more than held a different opinion to the group or no opinion at all - in short they adopted the tactic quote made famous by American outlaw MC riders 'if you are not with us you are against us' something even adopted in American Foreign policy - but not adopted by the average nzer that Kent Parker trys to elevate his companions as.

Suddenly in his rambling or sheer cunning Parker has projected his own plight as being a person who merely had online conversations with his cohorts. Even that is a lie as the pleadings show for the 'conversations' were not private and were taken elsewhere (to TM for example) and were based on an unprovable allegation of what Karam's motives were. Of course in full flight the conversations degenerated into simple defamatory mockery based on misinformation, rumour and deliberate lies - they were kids in a lolly shop of deceit and all restraint was stripped from them by the 'power' they suddenly found that allowed them to denigrate and defame other nzers at will. It remains however, that at least at this stage, the claim is solely against Purkiss and Parker.

While Purkiss is no doubt trying to convince others to part with their money by a fraudulent representation of the truth, at the same time he is reminding (threatening) the remaining 16 (not named as defendants) of a peril which might befall them. This is Parker in full flight, using a representation of himself and others as bringing proceedings against Karam when in fact it is the opposite, then enlarging the number of defendants in order to keep some control of fear against those not named.

Enough? Not on planet Parker. Bring out the hankies. He goes onto say that this is an issue of 'freedom of political speech.' Invoking the sacrifices of generations passed. 'Our forefathers sacrificed their lives to preserve freedoms like this. Lest we forget.' How touching for morons to be able to believe that defamation is indeed 'political speech' when the only time politics has entered the question was at the time the deluded Parker claimed to going to start a political party. Similarly, what a distortion to claim our forefathers sacrificed their lives so that a bunch of sick perverts could snoop into the lives of others and spread messages of hate, the fight was actually against that in more respects than one. I don't know Parker but it disturbs me that the rotten lying prick uses the war dead as a shield in a fight he started against honesty, truth and Justice.

Yes folks Parker's ambitions (manifold that they were) included the subterfuge of hiding the truth and in doing so deny Justice. Now he whimpers for help, the same person who actively encouraged the stalking of families and children not involved in the Bain case or any other controversial matter now whimpers. In his soulful self-pity he continues using the same tools of deceit, he has no capacity to recognise the harm he has caused and intended to cause he can only cry and whinge about himself and even them without the recognition that his state of denial worsens his situation by the day.

As for the errant 16 and others that supported the 'cause' it is recognised that many of them were simply carried along by the opportunity to exert power and be 'all knowing.' Many were able to temporarily transport the hate from their lives and heap it upon others. Some simply were misguided, didn't understand and didn't know when to take a breath. Kent Parker at the helm was in full narcissistic flight, he was a crusader for good, a politician in waiting, the leader of a 'powerful' political movement that only he could harness, a musician, godlike and a fool.