any where else that David Bain was given oral swabs and not intimate swabs during his strip search on the day of the deaths of his family?
I'm asking because the only link I've been able to track down as the originating source is to a hate-site member Lindsay Kennard. All help appreciated and treated in confidence.
Saturday, January 15, 2011
Hey Stockdale, I told you idiot mate Parker that he
would get his butt sued and he laughed. He isn't laughing now.
I'll give you something to laugh about as well Stockdale, if TM don't kick you off their boards and back to your rotten hate-site I'll have your fat arse in Court along with theirs. Laugh about that Stockdale - I'll never do it will I?
I'll be taking a close look at your fiddler mates Gurnard and Taylor, so they can have a laugh as well.
I'll give you something to laugh about as well Stockdale, if TM don't kick you off their boards and back to your rotten hate-site I'll have your fat arse in Court along with theirs. Laugh about that Stockdale - I'll never do it will I?
I'll be taking a close look at your fiddler mates Gurnard and Taylor, so they can have a laugh as well.
superidiot, count your pennies......
And that point re Laniets gurgling is well made.If David Bain did hear her gurgling when he arrived home,then you could say he was partly responsible for her death by not calling the emergency services immediatly.
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supersleuth (0 ) 10:57 am, Sat 15 Jan #15519
The latest from the idiot, an admission that fiddler Taylor immediately tried to correct. But he Stockdale said it. Saved, thanks superidiot.
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supersleuth (0 ) 10:57 am, Sat 15 Jan #15519
The latest from the idiot, an admission that fiddler Taylor immediately tried to correct. But he Stockdale said it. Saved, thanks superidiot.
How are you feeling Stockdale?
The poster superslueth continues to harass and lie about David Bain.
As you know he is an administrator on one of the hate-sites.
He repeats daily that David Bain was never strip searched on the day of the killings and therefore scratches on his chest were not seen. The 'scratches' make a complete case therefore that David was involved in the killings of his family. I have counted at least two hundred occasions in merely weeks where he has made this claim. Any uninformed person reading his posts would easily be convinced by this lie. The actual evidence that David was strip searched is on page 150 of the 2nd trial transcript. This has been brought to superslueths attention however, he deliberately misinterprets and claims the Doctor didn't fully do the examination although the record shows the examination was completed and the samples given to one of the two attending officers. Not one person in the house that morning or attending David that day has ever given evidence of seeing the scratches.
Further research provides a record of the search taking place as recorded in the depositions pre trial 1. I have copies of that and the transcript recording mentioned above.
I repeat, every day and often many times a day superslueth repeats this lie which no doubt convinces many that David Bain is guilty. That is persecution and harassment of the worst kind. The poster knows it is not true but uses anyway in his ongoing attack against a person he has publicly slandered and vilified on TM boards for over a year. It has to stop.
I have taken some legal advice about the matter and I understand that sanctions can be taken against both TM and the poster (real name Mike Stockdale of Palmerston North) to prevent David's ongoing harassment in this matter. I give you the opportunity to remove him from the boards so as to avoid further harm to David and to avoid the litigation that it appears I will have to take against TM as the publisher of superslueths defamation and messages of hate.
For the record, and understanding this correspondence will be material to any action I may have to take, I also point out I have extensive records of Stockdale defaming Joe Karam and others, lying about other significant pieces of evidence, and also his harassment and stalking of other posters. This is a very serious matter as I'm sure you appreciate. An opinion is one thing but deliberate lies intended to defame and harass others is illegal.
Should you need any clarification on any of the above from the official records I can provide it for you, but of course it isn't my credibility on the line but Stockdales and his host TM.
I look forward to your reply.
Yours etc
As you know he is an administrator on one of the hate-sites.
He repeats daily that David Bain was never strip searched on the day of the killings and therefore scratches on his chest were not seen. The 'scratches' make a complete case therefore that David was involved in the killings of his family. I have counted at least two hundred occasions in merely weeks where he has made this claim. Any uninformed person reading his posts would easily be convinced by this lie. The actual evidence that David was strip searched is on page 150 of the 2nd trial transcript. This has been brought to superslueths attention however, he deliberately misinterprets and claims the Doctor didn't fully do the examination although the record shows the examination was completed and the samples given to one of the two attending officers. Not one person in the house that morning or attending David that day has ever given evidence of seeing the scratches.
Further research provides a record of the search taking place as recorded in the depositions pre trial 1. I have copies of that and the transcript recording mentioned above.
I repeat, every day and often many times a day superslueth repeats this lie which no doubt convinces many that David Bain is guilty. That is persecution and harassment of the worst kind. The poster knows it is not true but uses anyway in his ongoing attack against a person he has publicly slandered and vilified on TM boards for over a year. It has to stop.
I have taken some legal advice about the matter and I understand that sanctions can be taken against both TM and the poster (real name Mike Stockdale of Palmerston North) to prevent David's ongoing harassment in this matter. I give you the opportunity to remove him from the boards so as to avoid further harm to David and to avoid the litigation that it appears I will have to take against TM as the publisher of superslueths defamation and messages of hate.
For the record, and understanding this correspondence will be material to any action I may have to take, I also point out I have extensive records of Stockdale defaming Joe Karam and others, lying about other significant pieces of evidence, and also his harassment and stalking of other posters. This is a very serious matter as I'm sure you appreciate. An opinion is one thing but deliberate lies intended to defame and harass others is illegal.
Should you need any clarification on any of the above from the official records I can provide it for you, but of course it isn't my credibility on the line but Stockdales and his host TM.
I look forward to your reply.
Yours etc
Friday, January 14, 2011
Those aussie heroes...
Jordan Rice the 13 year old boy who told rescuer Warren McErlean to save his brother first from the flood waters. Before Warren returned for Jordan and his mother Donna Rice after saving 10 year old Blake they were gone into the waters. Warren paid tribute to Jordan and never said a word about his own bravery.
That aussie Veit Nam vet saved those horses by securing and towing behind a small dingy from the rushing flood where they were dying in the water to dry ground, I don't have his name on hand but I'll place it later, a hard, tough wiry bastard who explained it by saying that he was also a horseman.
That aussie Veit Nam vet saved those horses by securing and towing behind a small dingy from the rushing flood where they were dying in the water to dry ground, I don't have his name on hand but I'll place it later, a hard, tough wiry bastard who explained it by saying that he was also a horseman.
That strip search that Stockdale keeps lying about and the 'oral' swab he substitutes for genital swab thanks to 'I understand' .....
'information' from another hate-siter Lindsay Gurnard, and his reliable 'I understand' companion fiddly Ralph Taylor.
I've posted this before....from Trial 2,
Doyle's evidence cross examination p150. Context is why they didn't do the GSR tests on David - Doyle's answer was that it would have been insensitive.
Q. He was subjected to very invasive tests of his body wasn’t he? Swabs taken?
A. He was examined by a doctor.
Q. When was that done?
A. Later that day.
Q. On that same day?
A. I think around about midday, half past 12.
Q. And we’re not talking about plastic covers around your hands or being checked, we’re talking about swabs being taken from the most intimate part of your body. And you’re saying that you didn’t mind doing that but you couldn’t bring yourself to ask for a test on his hands? Come on Mr Doyle.
A. These – these tests were carried out by Dr Pryde, there was a police surgeon and he carried them out in the normal way that he would do with any test I’m sure.
Q. And that is a particularly invasive test isn’t it?
A. Oh I’m sure it is.
Q. You have to follow a police directive as to what has to be done by the doctor?
A. The tests are required by the doctor, he has a procedure which is an agreed procedure, he follows that procedure.
Q. It’s an agreed police procedure for a police doctor to follow in a homicide, isn’t it?
A. That is correct.
Q. It involves strip-searching, swabs of intimate body parts, doesn’t it?
A. There are a number of tests, yes, all of those included.
Q. All of those are done?
A. Yes.
Now that would be clear enough for most idiots, even an idiot like Stockdale but he continues with his lies - basically accusing the Defence of not leading evidence that they Crown were silent on denying....
Remember the obvious as I pointed out in an earlier post as well as above...The easy answer is that both Det Dunne and Van Turnhout were present in the room when Dr Pryde did his examination. If (a) there was no strip search they would have said so at second trial or (b) if there was and they had seen the scratches then they would have said so. They would have shouted it from the roof tops.
So that Stockdale is lying is covered twice, once by actual evidence and secondly by the absence of evidence in denial, on a point it is to be remembered would have been dramatically helpful to a weak Crown case.
But still the lying dogs Stockdale and Taylor persist, so we'll go to the complete proof that they are rotten liars. The deposition of Dr Pryde from the first trial, quote follows verbatim...
"I obtained swabs from him from his urethral, the glands penis and the penile shaft".
So the Doctor didn't lie, didn't 'forget' because he 'asked' a question of David. He followed the procedure signed the necessary documents and handed the sealed test articles to the Detective in attendance.
So this is what we expect from the dirty dog Stockdale, he who claims to want Justice for Robin Bain, who he says cannot defend himself in death, and how does Stockdale achieve this? By casting aspersion on another dead man. A man who no doubt still has family and must abide silently while their father, husband, uncle whatever is daily maligned by the piece of crap who in 'defending' the dead Robin Bain maligns and persecutes his only surviving child with pages after pages of lies. You're a dog Stockdale, a miserable piece of crap mongrel.
Read it again dogface....
"I obtained swabs from him from his urethral, the glands penis and the penile shaft".
You should know what a penile shaft is, you've got one stuck on your shoulders that's why your piece of turd mate persecutor bro Taylor meets you in the bike shed.
I've posted this before....from Trial 2,
Doyle's evidence cross examination p150. Context is why they didn't do the GSR tests on David - Doyle's answer was that it would have been insensitive.
Q. He was subjected to very invasive tests of his body wasn’t he? Swabs taken?
A. He was examined by a doctor.
Q. When was that done?
A. Later that day.
Q. On that same day?
A. I think around about midday, half past 12.
Q. And we’re not talking about plastic covers around your hands or being checked, we’re talking about swabs being taken from the most intimate part of your body. And you’re saying that you didn’t mind doing that but you couldn’t bring yourself to ask for a test on his hands? Come on Mr Doyle.
A. These – these tests were carried out by Dr Pryde, there was a police surgeon and he carried them out in the normal way that he would do with any test I’m sure.
Q. And that is a particularly invasive test isn’t it?
A. Oh I’m sure it is.
Q. You have to follow a police directive as to what has to be done by the doctor?
A. The tests are required by the doctor, he has a procedure which is an agreed procedure, he follows that procedure.
Q. It’s an agreed police procedure for a police doctor to follow in a homicide, isn’t it?
A. That is correct.
Q. It involves strip-searching, swabs of intimate body parts, doesn’t it?
A. There are a number of tests, yes, all of those included.
Q. All of those are done?
A. Yes.
Now that would be clear enough for most idiots, even an idiot like Stockdale but he continues with his lies - basically accusing the Defence of not leading evidence that they Crown were silent on denying....
Remember the obvious as I pointed out in an earlier post as well as above...The easy answer is that both Det Dunne and Van Turnhout were present in the room when Dr Pryde did his examination. If (a) there was no strip search they would have said so at second trial or (b) if there was and they had seen the scratches then they would have said so. They would have shouted it from the roof tops.
So that Stockdale is lying is covered twice, once by actual evidence and secondly by the absence of evidence in denial, on a point it is to be remembered would have been dramatically helpful to a weak Crown case.
But still the lying dogs Stockdale and Taylor persist, so we'll go to the complete proof that they are rotten liars. The deposition of Dr Pryde from the first trial, quote follows verbatim...
"I obtained swabs from him from his urethral, the glands penis and the penile shaft".
So the Doctor didn't lie, didn't 'forget' because he 'asked' a question of David. He followed the procedure signed the necessary documents and handed the sealed test articles to the Detective in attendance.
So this is what we expect from the dirty dog Stockdale, he who claims to want Justice for Robin Bain, who he says cannot defend himself in death, and how does Stockdale achieve this? By casting aspersion on another dead man. A man who no doubt still has family and must abide silently while their father, husband, uncle whatever is daily maligned by the piece of crap who in 'defending' the dead Robin Bain maligns and persecutes his only surviving child with pages after pages of lies. You're a dog Stockdale, a miserable piece of crap mongrel.
Read it again dogface....
"I obtained swabs from him from his urethral, the glands penis and the penile shaft".
You should know what a penile shaft is, you've got one stuck on your shoulders that's why your piece of turd mate persecutor bro Taylor meets you in the bike shed.
More lies from Stockdale, these after he 'confirms' having the transcript...
And I see you have been unable to give me a page number re that blood splatter on the shoe,so it would seem to me either you or no's is making that up.cyber as well,come to think of it. So somebody is lying,and it ain't me.
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supersleuth (0 ) 3:22 pm, Fri 12 Nov #29535
You must have me mixed up with someone else,te,I have only been posting on Trade Me this year.And what blood splatter are you talking about?I don't recall mentioning any other blood splatter apart from that blood splatter that wasn't on the shoe. And as I have already told you,I don't bother to look at no's site anymore,I mean he still thinks that David Bain wasn't wearing his mother's glasses,dear oh dear.
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supersleuth (0 ) 3:33 pm, Fri 12 Nov #29538
This would be the high impact blood splatter that Karam talked about in the Karam/Laws debate. Now I would ask this question.In that photo I have linked to the right shoe is tucked under and the front upper is facing the floor. So how on earth could it have got high impact blood splatter on it?. But if Robin Bain was sitting on the beanbag,he could have got high impact blood splatter on his right shoe.
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supersleuth (0 ) 11:12 am, Thu 11 Nov #29458
The blood on his shoes could have been there for years before he was murdered.You tell me where it says in the transcripts it was high impact blood splatter,cyber.Another myth.
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supersleuth (0 ) 8:51 pm, Thu 11 Nov #29483
You havn't answered my question,cyber,where does it say in the transcript that it was high impact blood splatter?
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supersleuth (0 ) 8:59 pm, Thu 11 Nov #29489
But,hey,seeing as you are still replying to me,something you swore blind some months back that you would never do,obviously you are not a man who keeps his word,have you been able to locate in the transcript where any prosecution witness said those scratches to Robin Bain's hands were less than 12 hours old ,as Karam stated in that debate with Laws?.
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supersleuth (0 ) 11:38 am, Sat 6 Nov #29314
That'll do for the day. It's sickening reading page after page of lies from this 'man.' But it remains he is a liar, a stalker and a pedo-apologist. The heart is torn from his fabrications and he has only the illogical 'the defence asked the wrong witnesses' nonsense and Mrs Clark. With all due regard to other idiots I have known, they do fixate on things and lull themselves with mantra turning lies to truth. Mrs Clark's evidence was either totally rejected by the Jury or found not to be material to the proof of suicide, something which the Crown couldn't overcome and which idiot Stockdale can't overcome - these are the reasons he denied for so long the blood on the shoe, on the trousers and inside the rifle barrel.
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supersleuth (0 ) 3:22 pm, Fri 12 Nov #29535
You must have me mixed up with someone else,te,I have only been posting on Trade Me this year.And what blood splatter are you talking about?I don't recall mentioning any other blood splatter apart from that blood splatter that wasn't on the shoe. And as I have already told you,I don't bother to look at no's site anymore,I mean he still thinks that David Bain wasn't wearing his mother's glasses,dear oh dear.
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supersleuth (0 ) 3:33 pm, Fri 12 Nov #29538
This would be the high impact blood splatter that Karam talked about in the Karam/Laws debate. Now I would ask this question.In that photo I have linked to the right shoe is tucked under and the front upper is facing the floor. So how on earth could it have got high impact blood splatter on it?. But if Robin Bain was sitting on the beanbag,he could have got high impact blood splatter on his right shoe.
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supersleuth (0 ) 11:12 am, Thu 11 Nov #29458
The blood on his shoes could have been there for years before he was murdered.You tell me where it says in the transcripts it was high impact blood splatter,cyber.Another myth.
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supersleuth (0 ) 8:51 pm, Thu 11 Nov #29483
You havn't answered my question,cyber,where does it say in the transcript that it was high impact blood splatter?
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supersleuth (0 ) 8:59 pm, Thu 11 Nov #29489
But,hey,seeing as you are still replying to me,something you swore blind some months back that you would never do,obviously you are not a man who keeps his word,have you been able to locate in the transcript where any prosecution witness said those scratches to Robin Bain's hands were less than 12 hours old ,as Karam stated in that debate with Laws?.
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supersleuth (0 ) 11:38 am, Sat 6 Nov #29314
That'll do for the day. It's sickening reading page after page of lies from this 'man.' But it remains he is a liar, a stalker and a pedo-apologist. The heart is torn from his fabrications and he has only the illogical 'the defence asked the wrong witnesses' nonsense and Mrs Clark. With all due regard to other idiots I have known, they do fixate on things and lull themselves with mantra turning lies to truth. Mrs Clark's evidence was either totally rejected by the Jury or found not to be material to the proof of suicide, something which the Crown couldn't overcome and which idiot Stockdale can't overcome - these are the reasons he denied for so long the blood on the shoe, on the trousers and inside the rifle barrel.
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