William Rodie and Rachael Membery have defamed Joe Karam

many times, the most recently about David falling and banging his head beside the bed. They chorused this at length as though it might put in order all the forensic proof against Robin. They freely defame Karam not withstanding that they don't have the trial transcript, that rely on paper reports and information from discredited hate-sites. I imagine they see Joe Karam as a sitting target, an easy target using phrases such as the 'mountain of evidence against David,' or that dim-witted people are easily taken in by Karam. But hang on, wouldn't you have to be sure of your grounds, wouldn't you need to read the evidence carefully, not just some 'cleverly edited' piece fed from a hate site, because it is important before sticking your neck out to be sure of what you're saying, particularly if it is about a person who has shown all the tenacity in the world and prevailed against the odds. Time to look at what dopey sophy and retard said....

Speaking of untruths check this out.

Joe Karams version of what constable Andrews said at court, from radio live.
Karam [Quote] David Bain did faint, when he fainted he crashed down between, and banged his head, the officer Andrews who was with David when David fainted and crashed down behind the bed saw David crash down behind the bed and it was the constable Andrews who gave this evidence about him crashing down and banging his head on the wall by the window sill in his bedroom on the right side of his face, now that’s the evidence in the trial. [End Quote]

And here we have what the officer Andrews actually said in court in 2009, from page 336 of the transcripts.

Constable Andrews answers questions.

Q. And then the accused falling back?
A. Backwards, yeah.
Q. Backwards. Did you observe him hit his head or strike any part of his body?
A. NO I DIDN'T.

And below how this evidence was accurately reported in newspapers.

From: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2257185/Crown-alleges-
David-Bain-faked-a-fit
Leslie Andrew, a police constable who was one of the first three officers to enter the house after the 111 call from Bain, said he stayed with Bain as the two other officers checked the house.
He watched Bain from the doorway of his bedroom and when a dog barked from down the hall, Bain called: "Here Casey, Casey, Casey." When the other officers shouted that they had found five bodies, he saw Bain shaking for about 10 seconds and then falling backwards.
He noticed Bain's eyes were normal before he fell back, which he thought was "a bit strange".
"If he was having a fit his eyes would react as well," Andrew said.
He had seen people have fits before and had noticed their eyes would flicker and the whites of the eyes become prominent.
Andrew said he had pulled Bain out from the tight spot where he had fallen and placed him in a recovery position.
Bain, who looked straight at him as he pulled him out, did not hit his head or any part of his body and was limp.

From: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2254954/Crown-question
s-Bain-fit
Earlier, the police officer who saw David Bain have the fit that morning, Constable Leslie Andrew, said the episode seemed "strange''.

Andrew said Bain was sitting on his bedroom floor and then began shaking for 10 to 12 seconds before he fell backwards in a fit the Crown says was fake.

Andrew had observed other people have fits and their eyes normally changed and the whites became prominent before an attack.

Bain's eyes did not change before the fit and his episode seemed "strange'', he said.

Bain did not strike his head in the fit and when he went to assist David his eyes were open and he was "looking straight at me'', he said.

Andrew dragged a limp Bain into the recovery position and an ambulance officer was called.
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As you can see Joe Karams version of what was said, completely contradicts what Constable Leslie Andrew actually said when questioned at the Bain trial in 2009 and as reported by both Martin Van Beynen and Ian Steward for Christchurch's daily newspaper.

Quotesophier8 (1 ) 5:04 pm, Wed 24 Nov #30833

To repeat Dopey sophy's apparent trump card...
Q. And then the accused falling back?
A. Backwards, yeah.
Q. Backwards. Did you observe him hit his head or strike any part of his body?
A. NO I DIDN'T.

If you were an idiot and a desperate hate-siter like William Rodie and Rachael Membery you might think the above was some sort of paydirt. But to do so you need to omit the obvious that David did hit his head and strike part of his body and can only take Andrew's evidence when asked if he saw (that) as (like he said) A. No I didn't.' Which is far different than saying 'I saw him fall and he didn't strike any part of his body or head.' So if Mr Karam in his efforts to protect his good name decided to sue dopey sophy (Kirkdmaiden) William Rodie or goldnkiwi Rachael Dickyberryass Rachael Membery they'd be up the creek. But not as far as they imagine, because their lawyer, if they could afford one, would read the evidence and search for the complete answer to any defamation charges, but he or she wouldn't find it from carefully reading the evidence. What he or she would find is that no witness, not one, gave any evidence of seeing any bruises on David, before he fell. Oh dear how sad, tie up your ass and sad goodbye to your bees. And then look above again at the title William Rodie chose and which Retard Rachael Membery repeated 'Speaking of untruths check this out.' Well, you should have checked it out before you opened your big mouths Rachy and Little Willie, and you should have thought long and hard before defaming Joe Karam on a public message board that has already given rise to several hundred defamation charges, and you shouldn't have listened to idiots like OBrien and Curran because look where it has got you trusting 'your secrets are safe with me Curran and OBrien.' Oh goody, goody.