For dopey sophy and mama kent.

My letter to Trade Me....

Appreciating that the following appears on a TM opinion it however is not an opinion at all. Its clear propaganda and lies from a person who has likely been previously banned and who is a member of a hate-site. This person 'sophier' has, and continues to c&p from the hate-sites, having done so tens of times in the last few weeks alone.

The following post is totally defamatory to Joe Karam, David Bain and the defence team, this post purports as 'facts' a series of lies, leaving an uninformed reader to assume elements of deception presented by the defence in David Bain's trial. Before pointing out the lies in detail I will rightly bring attention to the fact that sophier, along with jeeves, luckytrader, linz4me, goldnkiwi, dcameron are all long term hate-sites members, all have a history of defaming Joe Karam on TM and elsewhere, sharing, at least between some of them, an apparent predilection or support of behaviour toward sexual activity with children or accusations of the same. A number of these posters according to TM's own records are also stalkers as defined under The Harassment Act 1997 and have been temporarily banned from TM for such activities in the past. These people's behaviour has been characterised and identified over a long period of time for using TM as a venue to spread hate messages about Joe Karam and others. The comments they make are not mistakes, opinions or anything of the sort, they are lies and misinformation presented and published in Public to destroy the reputation of David Bain and his legal team.

While sophier, as in this case below, may be the writer of the hate message and defamation TM however, remain the publisher. Unfortunately, it is to be noted that many board users or in fact casual readers could be influenced not only by the following lies but also by the tacit approval of TM and accept them as facts - that is a real danger, and one need only consider how attachment of 'I read it in the paper (message board)' brings, in this case at least, an undeserved respectability or credibility to a bunch of lies.

I am completely confident that should TM be taken to task over such as that below, TM has no chance of defending it as being truthful and no way of presenting a satisfactory result (helpful to TM) from the actual Court documents to establish that TM could credibility accept in good faith that the following is true.

In short:
There is overpowering forensic proof against Robin Bain.
There were no bloody fingerprints of David Bain found on the rifle.
David Bain did not have 'his brother's blood all over his T shirt or shorts.' etc.

I would like to point out to TM again, that moderation of the Bain threads is a relatively straight forward procedure, because all the hate-site members have been identified to TM and may officially be discovered to them at some point. The same people doing the same thing day in and day out, not random events but deliberate events by the same people directed from the same hate-sites. I have told TM previously that there is a lot of recorded material proving the conduct of these people. I understand some of it may be currently under investigation. These posters should be banned. Further, if TM wish to keep Bain threads going TM should become acquainted with the truth of the Bain case, the trial transcript etc and moderate accordingly - but foremost prevent hate-siters operating with apparent impunity on TM boards.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=343730&p=602&topic=7

In order for David to win on the BOP Robin has to be guilty on the BOP, with no evidence against him for murder that is impossible, David still has to explain how he got his brothers blood all over his T shirt, shorts, and Gondoliers shirt as well as leaving bloody fingerprints on the murder weapon, just to mention a fraction of the very good evidence for David to be the killer on the BOP.

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sophier8 (1 ) 4:39 pm, Tue 16 Nov #30092

Yours etc