Debate by Mantra.

What Michael Laws was unable to explain during his debate with Joe Karam on Radio Live:

How there was blood on the top of Robin's shoes although his feet would have been folded underneath him had been praying as the Crown claimed.

How DNA was found inside the rifle and silencer.

The bloody and bruised hands of Robin Bain, and the evidence given that the injuries were hours old at a maximum.

How Robin was so compliant in his own death when the rifle had misfired, been cleared and returned to his temple for the final shot.

The footprints that the Crown witnesses acknowledged excluded David Bain has having walked through the murder scene that morning, but which however did not exclude Robin.

That there were not any scratches on the torso of David Bain on the morning of the murders when he was examined by the Police Doctor observed by two police officers.

The fact that were multiple fingerprints on the firearm, nor indeed showing that David's fingerprints were not in the firing position and had been proved not to have been blood as had been claimed for years.

In all, to me, a comprehensive rebuttal by Karam of the tired old 'mountain' of evidence against David. A rebuttal of Law's contention of what Joe 'knew.' A dearth of knowledge of the case by Laws was displayed and he had no reply to quotes direct from evidence. Nor indeed was he even willing to acknowledge the difference between so called 'suppressed evidence' compared to rulings of potential evidence as inadmissible. Poor skills from Law, particularly in reiterating known facts that it was David's rifle, but unwilling to absorb that the set out of the message left on the computer was in Robin's style of format as shown by other material written by him. Laws, tellingly, made not one reference by page to evidence - his opening and closing was clearly prepared and even after the debate he maintained a mantra that evidence had disproved.

Laws had no answer to the exposure of the fallacy of the 'fight' put up by Stephen and how Robin would have been 'no match' for him having already suffered a wound that would have been fatal. Laws sang only one song, and either didn't have the dexterity of mind to debate as the information unfolded or was guarded by the knowledge to leave the mantra would have spelt even more plainly his defeat against overwhelming evidence of the innocence of David Bain.