tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post5219707642043102363..comments2024-03-20T18:05:50.971+13:00Comments on NOSTALGIA-NZ: 'Key' question from TV1s Steve MarshallNostalgia-NZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-18537305379103738172012-03-15T11:01:12.381+13:002012-03-15T11:01:12.381+13:00Memorable Moments is closed from by a problem caus...Memorable Moments is closed from by a problem caused by an incompetent operator. I changed settings and somehow have blocked everyone. I have sent smoke signals and expect the Lone Ranger to ride up on Tonto any minute to rescue me. <br /><br />Can't have the masses revolting - any more than they already are.Beyondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762242098552451174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-51540990582162804762012-03-15T08:36:43.994+13:002012-03-15T08:36:43.994+13:00Sorry one site is open and the other is closed now...Sorry one site is open and the other is closed now. I do know the owner has been having some threats sent from the hate-sites, one from a person whose identity is being sought now.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-9654420381867657012012-03-14T20:30:57.516+13:002012-03-14T20:30:57.516+13:00I don't know. I tried to go in their in Februa...I don't know. I tried to go in their in February only to find it closed.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-53349564302542823942012-03-14T14:56:24.784+13:002012-03-14T14:56:24.784+13:00OT butcan you tell me why I have been denied permi...OT butcan you tell me why I have been denied permission to view "unspinnind mem moments"?nlxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07842987665412768156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-55710859742897131232012-03-13T10:41:27.478+13:002012-03-13T10:41:27.478+13:00Regarding 'forces of the state gone wrong'...Regarding 'forces of the state gone wrong', the state employees rarely seem to be punished for their negligence or corruption.<br />And compensation to the victims of the wrong doesn't seem to be a deterrent to future state employee negligence or corruption.<br />If the state employees who have gone wrong went to jail, that could deter future problems.Lee Hinklemanhttp://superfly.co.nznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-27506710104762219872012-03-12T19:23:23.160+13:002012-03-12T19:23:23.160+13:00Nothing more disgusting than people out to get mon...Nothing more disgusting than people out to get money, what ever the cost. <br /><br />Joe should get a knighthood and a million dollars for himself, after all that tireless work he put in to solving this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-71985133868877424022012-03-12T14:12:18.392+13:002012-03-12T14:12:18.392+13:00The problem I see, is a general ignorance by many,...The problem I see, is a general ignorance by many, who fail to see the motives, and hang off every word they are told by people like van Beynen. Nothing will change their minds, not even compensation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-25752230821960062122012-03-12T12:51:08.126+13:002012-03-12T12:51:08.126+13:00Thanks for that, we do have those reporters with s...Thanks for that, we do have those reporters with such integrity that drives them to fight injustices but unfortunately as we have seen in the Bain case we also have reporters who drive injustices as well. Pleased to be reminded that the press have played a large part in many of the cases overseas which have been remedied, I think however it's time for many NZ journalists to look at themselves, detached from the cyber age haste, and look into themselves at what they want their careers to achieve. Sensationalism and superficiality are not measures of integrity.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-70377395249862879872012-03-12T12:09:15.928+13:002012-03-12T12:09:15.928+13:00That was Nick Marshall for TVNZ.
I watched van Bey...That was Nick Marshall for TVNZ.<br />I watched van Beynen hanging about behind David, staring at him, apparently hoping to eavesdrop on any conversation he might have with delegates and other speakers. Until Van Beynen became aware that Joe Karam and many others were watching him do that, when he sidled off. <br />What the journalists didn't like was that they were being expected to be responsible, to report with integrity and accuracy. Karam had challenged Martin Van Beynen about his motives and his police connections (which he admitted: his brother is Ray Van Beynen)in front of conference organisers and other press.<br />Throughout the conference, a recurrent theme was the role of the press in contributing to the cause of miscarriages of justice, and the extreme damage they do to these victims and their families, damage that remains for the rest of their lives. There were journalists there who had taken the other road and done proper investigative journalism with integrity and maturity: they were often responsible for the exoneration of people after many years in prison. The case of John Button was a particularly good example of this - Button's Karam was a journalist, a woman who knew the right thing to do. And yes, her career benefited too. <br /><br />If they have any honesty or conscience, the New Zealand journalists at the conference should be deeply ashamed at the comparison with their professional betters. <br /><br />As for why the exonerees spoke... I asked many of them just that. The most concise answer was "because it can't all have been for nothing!"<br /><br />And it's US who do this to them. The system WE put in place, the system WE allow to continue. WE allow the press to persecute them and whip up a witch-hunt. WE allow the police systemic errors to continue by not demanding accountability. WE allow our justice system to hide behind technicalities and delays and justifications. These people are public servants: OUR servants. <br />The delays in rectifying these injustices are unconscionable, and WE need to protest to put things right and stop them happening.Perth delegatenoreply@blogger.com