tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post2906517964181991223..comments2024-03-20T18:05:50.971+13:00Comments on NOSTALGIA-NZ: John Key on Teina Pora - does he get it?Nostalgia-NZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-8138047779598600452014-02-09T20:55:22.632+13:002014-02-09T20:55:22.632+13:00For proof of that, no legal aid for Bain or Lundy,...For proof of that, no legal aid for Bain or Lundy, both judged as unsafe convictions by the Privy Council and only able to be argued by the good will of those giving their time for free, correspond that with the money provided to The Crown in order to prove the convictions were 'safe.' Things aren't right with this and in part the tightening of Legal Aid is not only a restriction on the right to a fair trial, but also of cementing over cases like Poras. More money will be spent by The Crown on the Pora case, unlimited to some extent, but Pora will be found innocent as he is in the mind of many New Zealanders - that reflects on all of us but more so on the blindness of our Justice system.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-52581558469417784382014-02-09T07:17:02.591+13:002014-02-09T07:17:02.591+13:00Legal aid: the Ministry of Justice decides whether...Legal aid: the Ministry of Justice decides whether the applicant should get legal aid based on whether they think the case they have might get somewhere. So one arm of the MoJ (Crown law) prosecutes the case, 'winning' or 'losing' it, another arm evaluates the defence case to see if they should help the prosecution lose. This is expecting the MoJ to be able to dispassionately judge themselves to be wrong. There is a definite perceptible conflict of interests in that set-up!Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-68457537391388342412014-02-04T18:57:04.819+13:002014-02-04T18:57:04.819+13:00I see Crown Law is truly testing how well the &quo...I see Crown Law is truly testing how well the "system works" by appearing before the PC later in the year to "argue their case". <br />All this case is proving is that the 'system' of never saying we may have got it wrong is well and truly alive and kicking.onlookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12325067865429740022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-5829830897270996412014-02-04T17:21:46.601+13:002014-02-04T17:21:46.601+13:00An expected reaction from the tax lawyer that the ...An expected reaction from the tax lawyer that the system is 'working' but in reality what a joke. Poras conviction needs to be quashed completely by the PC with no retrial (which is what I believe his team are seeking) and Rewa needs to again be tried for the murder, the comments of Barry Hart, Rewas lawyer are a joke, Yes the appeal will focus on Rewa as the evidence would suggest it is around 99% probable that he is the guilty party.Rowannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-75853851884982198532014-02-04T07:59:50.389+13:002014-02-04T07:59:50.389+13:00Those videos of the 'interviews' of Pora w...Those videos of the 'interviews' of Pora were shocking, they revealed more about the 'case' against Pora than the entire trial manuscript. I shake my head in bewilderment that not one NZ Judge dealing with this case vocalised any concern about what was clearly an abuse of process that at the very least should have seen the 'confession' thrown out. There is more 'dark' work in this case because when the suspension of the search for Rewa took place he continued his attacks.<br /><br />How the hell something can be 'working' when a boy ends up in prison for 2 decades for telling lies, then is unable to get any financial assistance to gain his freedom, exhausts the credibility of our Justice system. I admire those fighting for him, and others in his situation, because of their beliefs in fairness and Justice.Yet it is those that have turned a 'blind eye,' walked away in silence that rattle the cages - particularly with insulting claims that a system unable to correct itself, without any ability to look inward and reject what is wrong, failing to put things right while congratulating itself using words such as 'historical' and 'complex' that should make us all angry.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-69792849697091977182014-02-04T01:01:34.383+13:002014-02-04T01:01:34.383+13:00Thanks and a very good summary of the political si...Thanks and a very good summary of the political situation though, John Key stating that the system is 'working' is ridiculous because if it wasn't for the hard work of Pora's legal team and supporters he would still be languishing in prison (as he still is currently) and many in the public domain myself included would not even have heard of this travesty of justice. The Police officers in charge of this case we would all agree seemed more interested in validating their original prosecution of Pora after Rewa was identified rather than admitting that they got the wrong guy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04259707894825713634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-68234624770356839162014-02-03T22:06:44.626+13:002014-02-03T22:06:44.626+13:00Thanks, that's a very important difference. I ...Thanks, that's a very important difference. I could say the Jury agreed that they didn't know and that was caused by the extraordinary 'shift' in the Crown case to put a 'boy' of limited intelligence on the same page of a older, deliberate and practiced rapist who always worked along.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-63725208505408447172014-02-03T22:03:39.479+13:002014-02-03T22:03:39.479+13:00Thanks for that information about the hung juries ...Thanks for that information about the hung juries on both trials of Rewa for murder. I'd either forgotten or overlooked that. I'm speculating again, but it would be unlikely that Rewa would not be found guilty if there were a third trial for him because all the options for a jury would be clear - a simple, did the rapist kill her and is there any credible evidence he didn't act alone. Such a trial I think would be important for a lot of people, not least the police.<br /><br />You are right about 1996, there is no excuse for what happened then after the revelation about Rewa's dna being identified. There is no excuse either for Pora to have been placed in the position he was earlier by Rutherford, or for the Courts to have to have 'allowed' improperly gathered evidence, of a very suspect nature to be used against him - particularly where no physical evidence linked him to the scene.Nostalgia-NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048029433699816931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-20925891147761998672014-02-03T21:05:50.060+13:002014-02-03T21:05:50.060+13:00A slight correction to an otherwise very good summ...A slight correction to an otherwise very good summary of the situation Nos, Rewas two trials both returned no verdict, he was not found 'not guilty'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4909488748140942076.post-4995271636453691342014-02-03T18:44:12.936+13:002014-02-03T18:44:12.936+13:00Interesting post, as a small correction Rewa was n...Interesting post, as a small correction Rewa was never acquitted on the murder charge regarding Susan Burdett, there were 2 hung juries on the murder count. The first trial for his 27 rapes there was a hung jury on both the rape and murder counts relating to Burdett, and at a retrial later in 1998 a second jury this time convicted him of the rape, but again couldn't come to a decision on the murder charge.<br /><br />Technically, once the convictions are quashed for Pora and I am pretty sure they will be, there is nothing stopping the Crown from dragging Rewa out of Paremoremo Prison and putting him on trial again for Burdett's murder. Whether this will occur remains to be seen, as Malcolm Rewa is already serving Preventative Detention with a 22 year minimum so he may never get out of prison as it currently stands already.<br /><br />Really though, as early as mid 1996 (When it was determined that the semen found inside Susan Burdett belonged to the serial rapist Rewa) the case should have been thoroughly reviewed and Pora's convictions should have been quashed, and in the clearer waters Rewa would have surely been convicted of both the rape and murder of Burdett.<br /><br />Interesting link below as well, with comments from the Criminal Profiler whose knowledge of Rewa and his offending method also stating his belief in Pora's innocence :<br /><br /> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10806944Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04259707894825713634noreply@blogger.com